June FSO

[gyrene81]

  Should be interesting to say the least. Nothing on the Axis lineup to compete with the Spit16s, P-38J, P-47 and B-26 at 30k. The Normandy invasion was a fail for the Germans, let's see if we can recreate history.

[Stampf]

All of our planes are either out performed, or out gunned, or both.

Ja.

Looks like the legendary skill, fighting spirit and courage under extreme condition of our Luftwaffe, will be needed called into play once again.  Let them come.       
                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                             

[AKKuya]

Ja.

Looks like the legendary skill, fighting spirit and courage under extreme condition of our Luftwaffe, will be needed called into play once again.  Let them come.       
                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                             

That's some positive attitude.

[kilo2]

Spit 16 is a joke. It would be the same for us to have K4s instead of g10s, as spikes said.

We have a spit 9 why not use it. I realize its a C and not an E.

[daddog]

Spit 16 is a joke. It would be the same for us to have K4s instead of g10s, as spikes said.

Limited to 12 per frame. The other 200+ Allied AC will be something else. Also thought it came out in the summer of 1944. What am I missing here?

[Spikes]

Limited to 12 per frame. The other 200+ Allied AC will be something else. Also thought it came out in the summer of 1944. What am I missing here?

From OP:
Spitfire XVI (max 48)

IIRC the XVI was made operational in Oct of 44, deeming it unfit for this FSO.

[daddog]

Oh I see my mistake. I looked at this line.

Recon Aircraft: Spitfire FR XIV (Spitfire XIV, 12 per frame) *Special mission aircraft*

 

[Stampf]

Oh I see my mistake. I looked at this line.
 

dd,

Like I said earlier.  Alot of folks going to have a short night.  I thought this was a typo or something.  Really an way off planeset this operation.

[Spikes]

Oh I see my mistake. I looked at this line.
 

I figured sir

Have to agree with Stampf. I think the only people who might be able to survive are the 234s. if the props all dogfight.

[Stampf]

Just look at it on the face:

The axis is fielding:

 a tanked 109, an early/midwar, 7mm equipped 190, and the 190A-8 which unless in the hands of pilots with alot of experience, might as well be a target drone, and even in the best of hands is woefully out matched and offers no offensive option, other than head on...which is hardly offensive.


EDIT: Now that is it on the face.  Variables like tactics, circumstance, individual pilot abilities, luck and the way the battle unfolds will all play into the way the night goes of course, but looking at just the match-up, it's really not even a fight, with that many 16's deployable.

[Squire]

The 109G-14 and the Spitfire XVI( LF IX) share the same time line for the ETO.  Pls dont throw out stuff like "Same as K4s" without the facts, thanks.

Geezus. You guys make it sound like the Spitfires are F-86 Sabres. How about a little less drama?

The Spit XVI are capped ar 48.
The Spitfire VIIIs are capped at 12. (the 24 was from a previous copy and has been changed).

There is NO LIMIT AT ALL on 109G-14s, if you look.

Regards.

[grizz441]

The 109G-14 and the Spitfire XVI( LF IX) share the same time line for the ETO.  Pls dont throw out stuff like "Same as K4s" without the facts, thanks.

Geezus. You guys make it sound like the Spitfires are F-86 Sabres. How about a little less drama?

The Spit XVI are capped ar 48.
The Spitfire VIIIs are capped at 12. (the 24 was from a previous copy and has been changed).

There is NO LIMIT AT ALL on 109G-14s, if you look.

Regards.

This is more of a hypothetical question, but what is ultimately more important in designing an FSO setup, Historical Accuracy or Balanced Matchups?

[Kermit de frog]

Ja.

Looks like the legendary skill, fighting spirit and courage under extreme condition of our Luftwaffe, will be needed called into play once again.  Let them come.       
                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                             

 

 

[Spikes]

The 109G-14 and the Spitfire XVI( LF IX) share the same time line for the ETO.  Pls dont throw out stuff like "Same as K4s" without the facts, thanks.

Geezus. You guys make it sound like the Spitfires are F-86 Sabres. How about a little less drama?

The Spit XVI are capped ar 48.
The Spitfire VIIIs are capped at 12. (the 24 was from a previous copy and has been changed).

There is NO LIMIT AT ALL on 109G-14s, if you look.

Regards.

It depends how you're looking at this...Yes the LF IX was in service. So was the G10. You are replacing the Spit LF IX with the 16 (Oct '44), so replace the G10 with the K4 (Nov '44).  It is not like it's uneven...

[daddog]

This is more of a hypothetical question, but what is ultimately more important in designing an FSO setup, Historical Accuracy or Balanced Matchups?

In my opinion, balance without question, but that does not mean we will not have setups where it is difficult for one side or another.

With many of the Allied fighters acting as strike AC I think this could work. Time will tell.