Vudu, the reason for your escort duty in beta frame; the Lancasters were to be slaughtered to justify future Lanc missions, attempt to create arrogance in German skill and show that the allies were truly flying inferior planes to also justify the need to mass together.
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If Dantoo had his way he would have done a similar mission as the Beta in each and every frame. (and if you look at our plans pretty much did)
Also to help understand why you attacked airfields instead of known enemy aircraft positions:
Dantoo needed a way to thin out the German defenses and give the defenders reasons to leave their strats. He asked for the points value to be increased in the rule making period. This allowed all active airfields on both sides to have a valid reason to be attacked, which can then be used to draw out defenders of strats to rescue the airfields. Then mass attack the South so the Luftwaffe would be unable to protect both strats and airfields while avoiding the Northern Luftwaffe to make them bored and ultimately break unit cohesiveness. This way when after they've been able to allow as much boredom to mess with the Luftwaffe heads as much as possible, an high alt attack could succeed against a hopefully much weaker enemy. The South was chosen first due to the ability to have the majority/entire RAF fight against ~50% of the Luftwaffe. This is what Dantoo wanted, but I don't think it was what the community wanted.
Again 100% wrong.
At any point the Axis could have matched us plane for plane in the South and still played it quite safe with having enough assets to protect their Strategic targets. The choice not to was the Axis Leadership and has nothing to do with the Allies. If the Axis were willing to gamble just a bit they could have well out numbered the Allies in the South and decimated them in every frame.
The Allies had 3 groups. Task group, Air Spawn, and the South.
Of the 3 the only viable group that was able to be used to attack the Axis was the South. It has almost everything to do with plane types and basing restrictions and nothing what so ever to do with Dantoo or any sort of "plan" he had.
(edit: I will add that of the AirSpawn groups we did use the Mossies in the S. in an attack role)
Again, tactics were dictated by plane types and basing restriction as opposed to some "Evil Master Plan" from Dantoo who had little to no involvement in the development of the tactics in the South.
Their ways hurt the community and rely on deception to work.
This has got to be a joke as it is so non-reality based to be comical.
Almost nothing that you have put forth as "truth" is even close to factual. All you have done is try to perpetuate some myth you are obsessed with and are trying to shove some warped personal agenda down everyones throat that is neither factual nor is it based only anything other than supposition, conjecture and lies.
I was the Allied XO. I know exactly what went down and how for the Allies. I know who planned what and what level of involvement. You on the other hand do not, and the ideas you are putting forth in this and several other threads are nothing but slander, lies, and falsehood.
The good news is if everyone knows this, it makes it that much harder for them to operate in the same way again. Change of tactics they will, but hopefully it will be too late.
What part of "Dantoo wasn't involved in well over 2/3rds of the strategy that was planned" are you failing to "get"?
In point of fact, he had almost nothing to do with the plan in Frame 3 and 4. He basically "quit" the Allied Leadership in Frame 3 and pretty much wasn't even asked his opinion in Frame 4. (no more than the Group Leaders were asked after the Frame 4 plan was presented)
In the Beta and Frames 1-2 Dantoo put forth the bomber plan.
TC ran the CV planes, and I was in charge of the Southern forces.
The ONLY person trying to manipulate the community here is you.
Well seeing this conversation from different angles has shown me a lot, and I plan to be more vocal in the future. Hopefully I wont have to say a thing but if the need arises you can count on me to be in the forefront of discussions. As to the deception from Datoo I wasn't there nor can I comment on that I just hope another scenario isint affected in the same way again, because I have never been mad while flying it was ridiculous. I know folks put in a lot of work and thats what makes it even worse. You go wow you put how much time into this and this is what happened........? Now one of he few points I do agree on is a written form of como is hard to to get a point across or folks can misunderstand what your trying to say. Now Lute I dont have any animosity towards you and I'm not that mad about it, it is just a game sir and I would fly under your command again. Just expect to hear from my angle when the dust settles. Thank Yall and have a nice day....
P.S. Thank you for answering my questions.
Vudu, the plan we put forth and implemented was nothing short of one of the most lopsided victories in the history of Scenarios. I for one am proud of each and every player on the Allied team and would be happy to fly with any of 'em at any time in any event.
Kudos to the Allied players!
