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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 12:36:23 PM »
Football vs Soccer


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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 12:41:29 PM »
Classic from John Cleese.

It makes sense for the name of football (American) to be changed to Gridiron.
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 01:23:33 PM »
IIRC, the name for American "football" was due to the length of the ball. 
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 02:05:59 PM »
IIRC, the name for American "football" was due to the length of the ball. 

11" =/= 12"
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 09:56:49 PM »
11" =/= 12"

It's not measured by direct height.  Take a flexible tape and measure again tip to tip. 
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2010, 06:48:32 PM »
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2010, 11:40:54 PM »
Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.


In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!


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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 12:14:27 AM »
Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.


In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!
I thought the USA would get right into a game like Rugby League, I'm really surprised it hasn't caught on.
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2010, 07:59:32 AM »
John Cleese rant: Soccer vs. Football   :bolt:

http://wimp.com/soccerfootball/



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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2010, 09:12:42 AM »
Bloody English don't even know their own history of "Soccer."

An excellent piece of research from the Yahoo sports hack.  :lol

Look up the Latin word 'soccus'.


Note the 'Castle soceries'?

The term does indeed precede 'football'. In the spirit of fairness, we'd be happy to oblige you and refer to football as soccer if you reciprocate and refer to your football as 'American rules rugby' and to baseball as rounders.  We are also prepared to refer to netball as 'women's basketball'.

I trust that this is satisfactory.  :aok
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2010, 09:14:37 AM »
Where does the term toe-rag come from?


  



Two versions I have heard and both refer to being a rascal and/or a vagrant. The first is that 'toe-rag' refers to the rags of cloth worn around a vagrants feet and was originaly coined as an insult or derogatory name. The second refers to the grubby children that would shine your shoes in the street with their 'toe-rag' whilst probably also robbing you. More affectionate name than insult in this context but essentially the same meaning. The modern use of the term has moved onto to being a friendly way of calling someone a bit of a dirty rascal.



Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.
In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!

 :lol  :aok


I thought the USA would get right into a game like Rugby League, I'm really surprised it hasn't caught on.

League sucks, Union all the way!  :D

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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2010, 11:07:50 AM »
An excellent piece of research from the Yahoo sports hack.  :lol

Look up the Latin word 'soccus'.

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Note the 'Castle soceries'?

The term does indeed precede 'football'. In the spirit of fairness, we'd be happy to oblige you and refer to football as soccer if you reciprocate and refer to your football as 'American rules rugby' and to baseball as rounders.  We are also prepared to refer to netball as 'women's basketball'.

I trust that this is satisfactory.  :aok

Hey, I never advocated a change to football from soccer.  I am just saying that according to the yahoo story, it is ironic that America is being lectured of why the name soccer should not be.  :O
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2010, 08:29:53 PM »




League sucks, Union all the way!  :D


Can you imagine trying to explain the rules to them.  :bolt:
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2010, 11:11:06 PM »
i dont even know them all  :noid
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Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2010, 04:46:34 AM »
the word football predates soccer by about 500 years years, even shakespeare uses it. :)
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