Jerky since last patch(es)

[Pand]

I'm having an issue with 'jerkyness' since the last patch.

Watching the frame rates, I maintain a consistent 59-60 FPS all the time; however, when pulling the trigger and performing maneuvers, the video seems to 'jerk' almost as if it's dropping some frames to keep up.  It's helped a little by dropping 'aircraft/vehicle effects'... but it is still very noticeable whenever the cockpit (pilots head) is moving or 'shaking' in any way.

Any help would be appreciated!

DXDIAG output in next message, with no issues up to August 18th. (been out for the last two weeks, and issue showed up when I got back and installed the new AH patch(es).  Been flying for the last 3 days with the issue.

[Pand]

DXDIAG64:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/2/2010, 11:17:13
       Machine name: CAESAR
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
       System Model: Inspiron 530
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3326MB RAM
          Page File: 2144MB used, 1180MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
      Display Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9588)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9588&SUBSYS_09811462&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1650 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 243 MB
      Shared Memory: 1407 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: SONY TV
         Monitor Id: SNY6101
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI
        Driver Name: atiu9p64.dll,aticfx64.dll,atiu9pag,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.14.0001.6105 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.723.0.0
        DDI Version: 10
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 4/6/2010 21:22:38, 28160 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
  Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6C8-11CF-0B60-8029A1C2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x9588
          SubSys ID: 0x09811462
        Revision ID: 0x0000
 Driver Strong Name: oem13.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_RV630:8.723.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_9588
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
   Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

          Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9588)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9588&SUBSYS_09811462&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1650 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 243 MB
      Shared Memory: 1407 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: DELL 2005FPW
         Monitor Id: DELE009
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: atiu9p64.dll,aticfx64.dll,atiu9pag,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.14.0001.6105 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.723.0.0
        DDI Version: 10
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 4/6/2010 21:22:38, 28160 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
  Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6C8-11CF-0B60-8029A1C2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x9588
          SubSys ID: 0x09811462
        Revision ID: 0x0000
 Driver Strong Name: oem13.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_RV630:8.723.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_9588
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
   Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

[Pand]

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Sound Devices
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            Description: ATI HDMI Output (ATI High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: AtiHdmi.sys
         Driver Version: 7.11.0000.7704 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 3/9/2010 06:21:42, 123408 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: ATI Technologies Inc.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Speakers (2- High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_1028020D&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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          Date and Size: 7/13/2009 20:07:00, 350208 bytes
            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
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 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Speakers (Logitech Mic/Speaker (USB VOIP))
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 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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        Manufacturer ID: 65535
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/13/2009 20:06:32, 109568 bytes
            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No


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Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
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Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar
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    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x044F, 0x0400
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      Device Name: Speakerphone(Disabled)
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    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0x08D5
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      Device Name: USB Receiver
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      Device Name: USB Receiver
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    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517
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      Device Name: USB Receiver
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      Device Name: BT Mini-Receiver
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    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC719
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      Device Name: IBM USB Keyboard with UltraNav
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      Device Name: IBM USB Keyboard with UltraNav
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      Device Name: CH PRO PEDALS USB
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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    Controller ID: 0x0
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
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      Device Name: Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard                               
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Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xB30C
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Poll w/ Interrupt: No

[Ghastly]

I've been seeing the same thing since patch 3.  While the frame rate as displayed on the counter appears rock solid at 59. as you pan the view through a busy area, the screen stutters/judders as though FR has dropped.

<S>
 

[gyrene81]

When that happens, watch the object count, if you see numbers flashing then returning to zero those are textures/objects being rendered. That can cause some stuttering effect.

Your paging file is too big, I hope that's not off a fresh boot:

Page File: 2144MB used

Unless that's a laptop, from a fresh boot your paging file should be under 800MB with anti-virus turned off.

And a large portion of your video memory is actually system memory which is typically slower than dedicated video memory, that's a video chip you're using isn't it?

If you're using shadows, turn them off. Might also try backing off on the texture size in the main video settings, if you're using 512 or higher. Could even try turning off other plane skins.

[Pand]

This is a desktop machine, runs great with just about everything, and has been great up until these last set of patch(es).

- I'm running windows 7 HP 64-bit with 4 GB of memory
- I've got an ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT over HDMI with 256MB of onboard memory... why does DXDIAG show 1407 MB of shared memory?  And can I make sure Aces or whatever isn't using shared memory?
- I do see the object count, but ONLY when I first login for a split second, or alt-tab out and alt-tab back in.
- Page File:  I have disabled my paging file, because 4GB of memory is enough to never need one (at least without running multiple instances of photoshop!).  I'm concerned why it would show a paging file, when I just checked and Virtual Memory -> Total paging file size for all drives: 0MB.

[gyrene81]

That is odd. I thought the XT models were onboard video chips. If it is, that would be the reason it's showing the extra memory. I'm running Win7 64bit with 4GB of RAM too, but my paging file is ~726 or so from a fresh boot and I'm not having any issues thus far.

[1701E]

Pand, I think you're confusing Page File and Virtual Memory.  Page file is how much memory is being used at the moment you opened DxDiag.  If you were to open AH right after closing DxDiag you'd be trying to run AH with 1/2 your RAM dedicated to something besides AH (bad).  You should be able to have that cut down below 1GB on idle.  I think mine runs 800MB with Windows 7 idle and I run a lot on idle (I don't head my own warnings sometimes).