ENY & Perk Value

[Nemisis]

Some of the planes that have higher ENY because they're arguably harder to use can hang with the late war monsters in somewhat experienced hands.  I'm not talking about the top shelf people here, I mean average, middle of the pack schmucks like me.

C205, 190A5, 109G2, 109F, P-51B, FM2, F4U-1, and the Yak-9U are all fairly high ENY rides that can give competition to the LW rides. I personally feel that the 190A5 is the most deadly variant of the family.

[SmokinLoon]

That seems to be a part of it, doesn't it? But it shouldn't, it should really be the opposite. After all, if you're outnumbered 3-1, who would you rather have as the 3, three newbies in Spit16s or three veterans in 109K4s?

109K4 is the best example of this, and it's the single plane in the entire set with the most out-of-whack LW ENY value. It should be 8 or maybe 10.

I'd be willing to bet that the reason the K4 isnt scored better for ENY is it cant carry ord, turns horrible to the right (1 dimensional turner), and has a very low ammo count.  Yes, it is one of the fastest in the game, it accelerates and climbs like banshee, and it hits hard.  To make that plane perform at its best, the learning curve is big.

[grizz441]

109K4 is the best example of this, and it's the single plane in the entire set with the most out-of-whack LW ENY value. It should be 8 or maybe 10.

On average it has very poor lethality.  Most guys will not kill more than 3 bad guys before having to rtb.

[Lusche]

On average it has very poor lethality.  Most guys will not kill more than 3 bad guys before having to rtb.

Players consistently killing 3 bad guys in a single mission are pretty rare in any plane

[AWwrgwy]

Players consistently killing 3 bad guys in a single mission are pretty rare in any plane

The key word is "consistently" and I don't recall anyone mentioning than about the K4.

The K4 seems to me to be more of an "Experten" plane.  Not anyone can jump in it and be successful versus.

Its ENY is fine where it is.


wrongway

[AAJagerX]

Not as many as you might think... it was only 7 or so, most of them La7's (which had been at ENY 5 at that time), on top of that a mighty perk modifier as my side was greatly outnumbered.

Was a one in a million day when everything came together, very unlikely such a thing will ever happen to me again.

If that ever happened to me I'd immediately start worrying about getting hit by lightning while being attacked by a shark.

[--)SF----]

C205, 190A5, 109G2, 109F, P-51B, FM2, F4U-1, and the Yak-9U are all fairly high ENY rides that can give competition to the LW rides. I personally feel that the 190A5 is the most deadly variant of the family.

Duh!

you left out LA5 and KI61

[Nemisis]

oh right. I never fly those, so I guess I didn't think about them. The Ki-84 is one as well.

[MachFly]

If you fly the 109K4 your either the best in it or the worst. That is because to be successful in that airplane to need to an expert and know everything about it. If your an average pilot, or even the best one but you don't fly the K4 you wont be getting many kills, it will be like dogfighting in a goon.


However i still think it's ENY is to high.

[Nemisis]

Before the final battle scenario, I had been using the K4 a good bit. I found that you could be at least somewhat successful if you wait, watch, and be VERY picky about your targets. I spent most of my time tearing it up low on the deck so I could make a pass from low 6 on any con that was going in a fairly strait line and was as of yet unaware of my presence. I would sneak up on a con 600-800ft below him, and when I got around 200yds behind him, I would climb up, fire a single round with the 30mm and then continue up through the climb to avoid a collision if I only knocked off a wing or the tail.


It takes a lot of patients and you may need to take more than 50% fuel if you want more than 2 kills, but this is what worked for me. IDK what any of the K4 experts have to say about my shenanigans though.

[guncrasher]

That reminds me of the time I landed 12 kills in seafire while vulching a field and got something like 5 or 6 perks.


Semp

[The Fugitive]

Before the final battle scenario, I had been using the K4 a good bit. I found that you could be at least somewhat successful if you wait, watch, and be VERY picky about your targets. I spent most of my time tearing it up low on the deck so I could make a pass from low 6 on any con that was going in a fairly strait line and was as of yet unaware of my presence. I would sneak up on a con 600-800ft below him, and when I got around 200yds behind him, I would climb up, fire a single round with the 30mm and then continue up through the climb to avoid a collision if I only knocked off a wing or the tail.


It takes a lot of patients and you may need to take more than 50% fuel if you want more than 2 kills, but this is what worked for me. IDK what any of the K4 experts have to say about my shenanigans though.

This is NOT fighting in a K4, it's called picking and can be done with ease in any plane.

[BaldEagl]

If you fly the 109K4 your either the best in it or the worst. That is because to be successful in that airplane to need to an expert and know everything about it. If your an average pilot, or even the best one but you don't fly the K4 you wont be getting many kills, it will be like dogfighting in a goon.


However i still think it's ENY is to high.

I fly the K4 successfully quite a bit and I'm no expert... just an average pilot.  I'm also not the worst in it.  Contrary to what nemisis said the K4 can mix it up pretty good against most of the plane set.

[guncrasher]

Funny things about 109's, most people think the only move it has is the rope.  About 80% of the ones I kill is some guy trying to rope ver and over and they forget to pay attention to the plane getting alt about 4 it 5k away.  Then boom one last rope attempt and they die.


Semp

[StokesAk]

C205, 190A5, 109G2, 109F, P-51B, FM2, F4U-1, and the Yak-9U are all fairly high ENY rides that can give competition to the LW rides. I personally feel that the 190A5 is the most deadly variant of the family.

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