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Re: plane
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2010, 09:19:51 AM »
Dodge bullets, fly zekes.
Landing is overrated.
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Re: plane
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2010, 01:18:46 PM »
Sorry Karnak but I can't agree with a spit being more fragile than the Zero.

Ki-84 is not what I'd recomend for someone fairly new.
Nik2 tends to lead new pilots into bad habits, like relying on HO and guns only defense.

The Spitfire is more fragile than the Zero, so that fails one of his qualifications.


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Try the Ki-84 or N1K2-J.

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 04:08:54 PM »
Yeah, the Spitfire looses a wing easily to a well placed shot, but the Zeke catches for fire for anybody who can hit a fuselage.

Sorry Karnak but I can't agree with a spit being more fragile than the Zero.

Ki-84 is not what I'd recomend for someone fairly new.
Nik2 tends to lead new pilots into bad habits, like relying on HO and guns only defense.

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Re: plane
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 11:18:06 AM »
Spitfires lose wings if you breathe on them wrong.  Even without being shot you lose wings.
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Re: plane
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 11:31:24 AM »
Spitfires lose wings if you breathe on them wrong.  Even without being shot you lose wings.

Same with zekes, I have done it on many an occassion. Go faster than 350 in a dive, heaven forbid you pull up to try and get out of compressing.
Landing is overrated.
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Re: plane
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 12:06:10 PM »
Only if you jerk the stick at high speeds.

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Re: plane
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 12:10:52 PM »
Which is the same for both Spitfires and zekes. Personally I fail to see a big difference in wing strength. I've lost wings while flying both before.
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Re: plane
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 12:26:58 PM »
You could consider giving the LA-5 a spin.  It's got some speed and maneuverability, while not the fastest or most nimble it does have good engine power for it's weight, which means it accelerates rather well can power through turns a bit and recover lost E quickly, also carries two 20mm cannons for punch.


Here's the write up from the AHWiki.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/La-5FN
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Re: plane
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 02:29:25 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 03:07:09 PM »
lol 38 is a big target, turns like crap for a noob to it,takes a master to turn it good, climbs good but Ki-84 will keep up mostly,  it has bad high speed compression,

definitively NOT a good plane if ya wanna do somewhat good if ya are a noob,has to be flown in it's "element" to be effective.

The plane you are looking for is the Hurri2C,-LA-7/5, spit-9, spit-8, KI-84, all 109's are quirky but can be awesome once you learn them, but the views are crap, which makes tracking bandits difficult.

like many have said there is no one magic plane that will make you a bad ass....well the Hurri2C is probably the plane you are seeking, but it is very slow so prepare to die every sortie so landing is a non-issue :D, used properly it will smoke every one of those planes listed easily, but again there are many planes in the hanger, have fun is whats important.  :aok

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Re: plane
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2010, 07:13:57 PM »
I assume he means something he can land kills in while he gets better?

F6F
handling is fairly docile
Good armament and easy to aim
Well armored
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Re: plane
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 07:17:35 PM »
As you can see by all the answers there are a bunch of different planes that will do what your asking. Each has it's strengths and each has it's weaknesses. The "trick" is to learn each. Use the plane in their strengths and avoid getting into position that the enemy can use their weaknesses.

Basically, pick a plane and learn it inside out.

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Re: plane
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2010, 06:56:32 AM »
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Re: plane
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2010, 10:54:59 PM »
Here's some advice from a rookie who's been  shopping for planes for a while.  The high-end planes the people have been touting to you, including the Spit, F4U and P-38 have varying degrees of issues that make them somewhat difficult for a noob to handle.  

The Spit is tricky to land (you can roll off the runway very easily because of the narrow track gear) and can stall or spin if you don't know what you're doing. Plus, figuring out how to use the guns can be a problem (convergence, mix of cannons and machine guns, etc.).  

The F4U was called the "ensign eliminator" for a reason.  Unless you can watch your speed and use flaps, you're not going to get the best out of the machine, and it has some nasty handling characteristics as well.

The P-38 requires good rudder discipline to squeeze out the best performance.  Plus, it's a big honking target.

The F6F has a lot of good qualities, but it doesn't quite have the maneuverability you seem to be looking for.

It sounds like you want a plane that is maneuverable, durable, easy to land, and has reasonable firepower.

The planes I would recommend with these qualities are:

Brewster: Pro's: Best-turning plane in the game, can take a reasonable amount of damage, won't stall or spin too much, lands extremely easy, and has 4x 50cal guns.
Cons: slow, no WEP, can't catch anything and not very good against bombers.

FM-2: Pro's Great turning ability, durable, easy to land, 4x 50cal guns. Kind of like a Brewster on steroids. Very stable.  Also, you can fly it for carrier ops.
Cons: limited payload for bombing strikes, also slow (but not as bad as the Brewster) and also cannot catch bombers.

One outside possibility is the P-40E, which has durability plus a 6x 50cal gun layout.  It's not as maneuverable and (in my experience) there's a specific speed where it must be flown to get the best out of it, and it's much harder to fly if it gets slow.  I did get some good results with it early on, but I switched to the Brew as my low-alt plane of choice.

Bear in mind that none of these rides have decent fighter/bomber capability.  I would recommend using the F6F for that, or a Mustang or Jug if you want to try a high speed fighter.

One last word of advice: Try before you buy.  Take a plane up in the Training area and fly it around for a bit. Try to make it spin or stall out.  See how it feels.  Kick the tires, tune the radio, test the brakes and check out the plush interiors.  Then try it in the MA. 

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