Going for my EIB again....

[lowZX14]

I know what you mean about the protractors TOMCAT, I kept one good one from Ranger Joe's I happened to find somewhere and never let it get away.

[TOMCAT21]

Believe it or not, you do get a better quality protractor from Ranger Joe's or US Cavalry then you do from the TAS-C.

[Stoney]

Thing is, if you get 'em in the field, you get the stock issue protractors.  Just like boots and deuce-gear, its best to always use the stuff that's issued, unless you belong to one of those units that has the juice to always get gucci gear.  Just make sure you take the time to square off the corners, trim the edges straight and such before you take it to the field.  They are made by the lowest bidder... 

I always found night land nav to be easier than day, because I couldn't see anything and was much more precise with pace count and bearing.  But, obviously, Junky didn't have a problem with that.

Keep digging Junky, and you'll get it next time.

[JunkyII]

The difference between grid and magnetic on ft drum is 13. Not a problem with that just mainly not picking the easy points first.....ran me out of time.

[lowZX14]

The difference between grid and magnetic on ft drum is 13. Not a problem with that just mainly not picking the easy points first.....ran me out of time.

Break down how that course goes for those of us who don't know my friend.

[JunkyII]

Break down how that course goes for those of us who don't know my friend.

Talking about the land nav course or the EIB itself?

EIB= PT test 75 points each cat.
Land Nav...3 points day and night
Patrol,urban, and TCP lanes have alot of basic soldiering tasks.
12 mile foot march in less then 3 hours...35 pound ruck full kit

Ft drum land nav site=thick and wet with a chance of no chem lights...

[Airborne]

The way we 13F's do land nav is, we check everyone prior to doing the course for any electronic devices. we still teach land nav the old fashioned way: Compass , map and protractor.

Sweet, good to know Im not the only BAMF on here

I'm the Targeting NCO for a battalion in 3/82nd

[ozrocker]

It's been 15 years, taught Land Nav at Fort Dix, NJ. If I remember correctly, the average pace count for males on level terrain is 112(?) steps per 100 meters. Anyway, Best Wishes for the 3rd (and successfull) try.

                                                                                                  <S> Oz

[mbailey]

Give'em He-- JunkyII

Good luck   

[Dr_Death8]

Just passed the PT test after waking up at 3am....time to go do some Land Nav.


Wish me luck!!


 

Best of luck to you. If it is anything close to as difficult as getting your EFMB for medics you are going to need it.  

P.S.- EFMB has the same road march at the end of it. You get up, take a written exam then do the road march. Catch is, even if you fail the exam, you did not find out until after the road march. Back in 1990, I did it in 2:25ish, second one in. 

[Babalonian]

Good luck Junky!  Hurry through and rough-it the first time so you got plenty of time to make sure it's right when you check it the second time.

It's been 15 years, taught Land Nav at Fort Dix, NJ. If I remember correctly, the average pace count for males on level terrain is 112(?) steps per 100 meters. Anyway, Best Wishes for the 3rd (and successfull) try.

                                                                                                  <S> Oz

Unless you're 6'5" like me, then you're typicaly in the 80s. 

[JunkyII]

my pace count on every left foot is 55....110 for every step

[texasmom]

Good luck! I know you'll do great!




When I went through air assault school, I made the march only one footfall in front of the paceman. *whew!*

About half way through the thing, I met a man who worked for my father years before.  He stayed with me the rest of the way. Had it not been for him I never would have made it.

[USRanger]

Texasmom was a dope-on-a-rope? Hooah!

[68Hawk]

Junky, the sky is blue because God loves the Infantry!

Don't feel bad.  My whole platoon had two people complete EIB.  There would have been three, but I've been broken since Baghdad.  Out now, but that was almost a year ago.  Part of that 2/36 was the ridiculous "standards" of 4/10.  The ruck was a good bit over 12 miles, and there were people failed for less than 30 seconds over time. 

Just work hard and go get yourself a ranger tab.  I wish I could have gone for that myself.  I don't know if you have a CIB or not, but it'll come.  EIB is harder to earn and shows more skill, but CIB has the oak leaves and means what it means.

If nothing else keep your head up, because you wear a cord and the sky is blue!