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Offline AAJagerX

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 12:33:15 AM »
Oh, and I didn't make any assumptions.  You've been flaming alot of people lately.  I never expected anything constructive out of you.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 12:51:55 AM »
Think of it as, Pilot error  :D
Does that give you any indication as to how much of a problem it actually is? Doesn't seem to be any others expressing a problem with it. But I'll concede, if you think it's a problem that HTC should fix then let HTC fix it.

Sorry if you think pointing out the obvious is a flame but...if the shoe fits.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 12:53:30 AM »
Does that give you any indication as to how much of a problem it actually is? Doesn't seem to be any others expressing a problem with it. But I'll concede, if you think it's a problem that HTC should fix then let HTC fix it.

Sorry if you think pointing out the obvious is a flame but...if the shoe fits.

Again, can you give me a reason why it shouldn't be disabled?

Imowface was just having fun.  You're being unreasonable to a fair request.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010, 12:59:49 AM »
I often use the button to go to desktop when I am AFK or when I am doing something in game offline and need to look something up for arena settings etc.

I don't doubt that others may have a problem with it but I have big old fat fingers and have never hit the button by mistake, so for me personally -1.

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2010, 01:02:58 AM »
Again, can you give me a reason why it shouldn't be disabled?
I already gave you several reasons but you're choosing to ignore them.

If HiTech comes into the forums tomorrow and replies to this thread that he will fix it, then all is good in your world. I don't believe it's HiTech's responsibility since it really has nothing to do with Aces High, every other key that can be assigned to a function has been assigned. Have you asked yourself why they would leave that key out if it's been on all Microsoft certified keyboards for the past 10 years? The answer is obvious to me, but I guess I just don't have the brains to see it differently.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2010, 01:03:46 AM »
I often use the button to go to desktop when I am AFK or when I am doing something in game offline and need to look something up for arena settings etc.

I don't doubt that others may have a problem with it but I have big old fat fingers and have never hit the button by mistake, so for me personally -1.

I don't doubt that you haven't had a prob with it, but alt-tab does the same thing.  You have to be deliberate with that, rather than accidentally hitting a button that's less than an inch from the spacebar.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2010, 01:07:01 AM »
I already gave you several reasons but you're choosing to ignore them.

If HiTech comes into the forums tomorrow and replies to this thread that he will fix it, then all is good in your world. I don't believe it's HiTech's responsibility since it really has nothing to do with Aces High, every other key that can be assigned to a function has been assigned. Have you asked yourself why they would leave that key out if it's been on all Microsoft certified keyboards for the past 10 years? The answer is obvious to me, but I guess I just don't have the brains to see it differently.

No, you gave NO valid reasons.  All you want to do now is save face.  That button is no different than any other input.  It just needs to be one that can be disabled.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2010, 01:13:48 AM »
I already gave you several reasons but you're choosing to ignore them.

If HiTech comes into the forums tomorrow and replies to this thread that he will fix it, then all is good in your world. I don't believe it's HiTech's responsibility since it really has nothing to do with Aces High, every other key that can be assigned to a function has been assigned. Have you asked yourself why they would leave that key out if it's been on all Microsoft certified keyboards for the past 10 years? The answer is obvious to me, but I guess I just don't have the brains to see it differently.

Just to clarify...    So HiTech has NO control or issue with the key mapping???  

When they made it so we could map keys to specific controllers, keyboards, views, so all of us could play the game as we can to the best of our ability, this wish isn't relevant?

Wake up.  This is their business and I doubt YOU run it for them.  
AGAIN...  This is the wishlist.  If you really feel like you have to argue, go to Gen. Discussion.  
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2010, 01:29:05 AM »
I'm not saying disable it as a whole (as you think).  I just want it to be a feature that CAN be disabled.


Again...  WISHLIST. 
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2010, 03:05:55 AM »
Easy solution.
Pop the key out. If you need to get to windows while you play, you can still stick your pinky finger there to activate it.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2010, 03:35:56 AM »
You can do it yourself. Googling is so not fun isn't it?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893

To disable the Windows key, follow these steps:
 
Click Start, click Run, type regedt32, and then click OK.
On the Windows menu, click HKEY_LOCAL_ MACHINE on Local Machine.
Double-click the System\CurrentControlSet\Control folder, and then click the Keyboard Layout folder.
On the Edit menu, click Add Value, type in Scancode Map, click REG_BINARY as the Data Type, and then click OK.
Type 00000000000000000300000000005 BE000005CE000000000 in the Data field, and then click OK.
Close Registry Editor and restart the computer.

To enable the Windows key, follow these steps:
 
Click Start, click Run, type regedt32, and then click OK.
On the Windows menu, click HKEY_LOCAL_ MACHINE on Local Machine.
Double-click the System\CurrentControlSet\Control folder, and then click the Keyboard Layout folder.
Right-click the Scancode Map registry entry, and then click Delete. Click Yes.
Close Registry Editor and restart the computer.

Don't know if you have Win7 but.

Here is another one: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/75295-windows-key-enable-disable.html

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2010, 03:38:58 AM »
Easy solution.
Pop the key out. If you need to get to windows while you play, you can still stick your pinky finger there to activate it.

That's already done.  I certainly didn't deserve the response (with pic) for a reasonable request.  It's not like I asked for an HO229.  Gyrene has made a name for himself belittling people on the Wishlist, and I'm not one to run away and hide in a corner.  It's a simple fix with another viable option (alt-tab).  I'd like to keep my keyboard intact, AND have the option to disable the Win key.

I don't feel that his derogatory opinion was necessary.  It's not his job to shoot down the opinion of others.  Unfortunately, we have some that want to force their opinions on others constantly, without regard to the fact that there's another human being on the other end.  If I had screamed:  "HITECH GIVE ME AN F-16 SO I CAN PWN ALL TEH NOOBZ!"  I'd understand.  Fact is, it was a legit wish and concern on my end.  He had no right or authority to shoot it down.  
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2010, 03:42:38 AM »
You can do it yourself. Googling is so not fun isn't it?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893

To disable the Windows key, follow these steps:
 
Click Start, click Run, type regedt32, and then click OK.
On the Windows menu, click HKEY_LOCAL_ MACHINE on Local Machine.
Double-click the System\CurrentControlSet\Control folder, and then click the Keyboard Layout folder.
On the Edit menu, click Add Value, type in Scancode Map, click REG_BINARY as the Data Type, and then click OK.
Type 00000000000000000300000000005 BE000005CE000000000 in the Data field, and then click OK.
Close Registry Editor and restart the computer.

To enable the Windows key, follow these steps:
 
Click Start, click Run, type regedt32, and then click OK.
On the Windows menu, click HKEY_LOCAL_ MACHINE on Local Machine.
Double-click the System\CurrentControlSet\Control folder, and then click the Keyboard Layout folder.
Right-click the Scancode Map registry entry, and then click Delete. Click Yes.
Close Registry Editor and restart the computer.

Don't know if you have Win7 but.

Here is another one: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/75295-windows-key-enable-disable.html



I already know how to disable it in Windows.  I just want an option to map the key to nothing.  That way it still functions outside of AH (without mutilating my keyboard, or going through all of that every time I want to fly) .   Ever wonder why I posted it here instead of the Microsoft tech forum?

 This is the Wishlist, and for the 3rd or 4th time in 6 years, I made a request.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2010, 10:12:16 AM »
You are one obstinent Jager.  :salute If my pointing out the obvious to you makes you feel belittled, talk to your psychologist.

Working under the assumption that you have not used any web search engine to alleviate your issue (and it is your issue), I've done the work for you and found a way that you can be responsible for fixing your issue without shifting the responsibility to someone else, and possibly causing others to experience issues with not being able to use the windows logo key the way they want. I really was hoping you had the gumption to take matters into your own hands and do some web searching for a solution, but I'm guessing that is not going to be the case so I'll spoon feed it to you.

I realize you want to maintain functionality of the Windows logo key and disabling it is not something you want to do, however I'm going to toss something at you that you probably do not want to acknowledge but here it is...just as you told Jimson to use the ALT+TAB key combo to minimize AH...you do not need the Windows logo key to be functional in order to activate the start menu in Windows, CTRL+ESC performs the exact same function as the Windows logo key.

If you are not comfortable editing your registry to disable that key or remap it to another key, I found 2 little applets people created for free use that give you a nice little GUI to remap or disable keys on your keyboard.
KeyTweak keyboard mapper

Sharpkeys keyboard mapper

You will want to get a backup of your registry, just in case. They are virus free and in Windows 7 will need to be run "as administrator". Before you install either, be sure to read the FAQ/Readme/Manual for them so you can make an informed decision.

I would point out exactly how easy it was, but...I'll refrain.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2010, 10:25:23 AM »
I'm no programmer but I always though it was an issue regarding one of two things:

1. a game programmer cannot disable the windows key because it is part of your OS?

OR

2. If they disable the windows key for you, what if I want to use the windows key?

I don't know.

I always figured it was like gyrene81 said, no one else does it.  Think there may be a reason no other game programmers disable it?

Personally, I've never had this problem.  Either I don't hit that key or it doesn't do anything.  Even when I hit it on purpose, after a BSD to find my cursor, it doesn't seem to do anything half the time.

Wish away all you want but look at "negative" responses not so much as "no, they shouldn't do this" but more as "this may be a possibility" why this won't be done.


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