Author Topic: CH Pro Throttle USB (Read 2548 times)

RGJ · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2001, 01:51:00 PM »

SB,

How did you get the little joystick on the CH USB throttle to do the views?

RGJ

SB · « **Reply #31 on:** July 11, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »

RGJ,

On the throttle the mini joystick is the X and Y axis. In your setup in Aces High there are options to set up your pan views. Assign the throttle X/Y axis to the pan views. When you start flying you have to hit F8 to enable pan views and you should be good to go.

Tyro48 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 11, 2001, 10:23:00 AM »

Hopefully by the end of Aug I will have the Pro Throttle & Rudders, can I buy a 4 port USB hub and hook it up to the USB port on my motherboard and operate my combat stick/ throttle/ rudders without any troubles or few as possible thrus the 4 port hub?

Starbird · « **Reply #33 on:** July 11, 2001, 11:26:00 AM »

Theoretically yes.

My sticks havn't showed up yet, but when they do thats what I'm going to be doing.

popeye · « **Reply #34 on:** July 11, 2001, 11:44:00 AM »

I am running an F-16 Combatstick, Pro Throttle, and Pro Pedals (all USB) through a 4-port hub. Everything seems to work okay, except that I lose the stick functions once in a while. Not sure if it has anything to do with the hub.

Tyro48 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 11, 2001, 03:55:00 PM »

Okie Dokie sounds good to me thanks for the input!

Moss · « **Reply #36 on:** July 11, 2001, 08:17:00 PM »

I've been running my usb ch pro throttle/combatstick and pro pedals through a 4 hub without problems for several weeks now with no problems that I can attribute to it. However; I do seem to have to exercise my controllers to their limits 1 time before I fly with them after I turn my puter on. Dunno if that has anything to do with the hub or not. Good news of course is that any and all spikes are gone except for my twitchy fingers and I lay that at the feet of being rode hard and hung out wet too many times.

Tyro48 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 11, 2001, 11:17:00 PM »

I too have to do this Moss I have heard it called waking up the USB!

RangerBob · « **Reply #38 on:** July 12, 2001, 01:42:00 PM »

Two things.

First, I can't get the Mouse axis control on the CH Throttle to control the pan views like you did SB. I tried going into Aces High and choosing the appropriate axis for the pitch view and the other for the yaw view like you said, but when I go to the plane and hit F8 for a pan view it, immediately jumps up and to the right for a view. When I use the mouse stick on the controller to pan, it only pans around one side and the up views. I must be missing something???

Second,

For those of you having to recalibrate each time you turn on the computer. You do not have to go into a calibration routine with USB, but you must wake up all USB sticks and axis when the computer is turned on. This will be the case with any USB stick. Just run your sticks through their full movement. You can do that right on the desktop, or even on the runway, engine turned off of course, if you forget.

You only calibrate the CH USB once in THEIR calibration routine. You do not calibrate in Windows or Aces High after that. If you do you may have problems. Just wake up the sticks.

As for an opinion of this new CH USB gear, well I'm the guy that provided the first Saitek Profile for Aces High on the old downloads page. I now own the CH USB Throttle, 565 stick, and Pro Pedals. There is no comparision between the CH support staff and Saitek, because the Saitek support dept doesn't exist and won't respond to you.

The CH USB throttle/stick is a vastly superior product. Programming is quite easy and understandable. You can even set your own sensitivity and deadbands for each axis, for each game, even if that game doesn't support such adjustments. You can set up any number of sticks to work with old games not designed to work with multiple sticks.

USB will solve your spiking, electrical noise, avoid all that sound card complication, and provide a very smooth operating stick.

CH is, and always has been, the best joystick company there is. Thrustmaster used to be a strong competitor until they stopped providing quality support a couple of years ago.

Ranger Bob

funkedup · « **Reply #39 on:** July 12, 2001, 01:47:00 PM »

I might misunderstand Ranger Bob, but I want to make it clear: You need to calibrate all devices in Aces High at least once.

SB · « **Reply #40 on:** July 13, 2001, 09:54:00 AM »

Ranger,

When you do the stick calibration in AH do you move the throttle joystick also?

Drop me an email and I'll send you my number if you can't get it going.

[ 07-13-2001: Message edited by: SB ]

RangerBob · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2001, 09:27:00 PM »

Thanks,

I did forget to move the joystick axis on the throttle during the first setup in Aces High.

I still have somewhat of a sensitivity problem. It seems that when using this throttle mouse in Pan mode the view "vibrates", or jerks back and forth a bit causing the view to be a bit hard to use. I tried setting the sensitivity down a bit, and even added a dead space, but I can't seem to get the vibrating jerkiness out of the Pan View.

Any ideas.

Thanks,

Ranger Bob

funkedup · « **Reply #42 on:** July 18, 2001, 09:29:00 AM »

Bob try adding some damping (in AH) on the view pan and view yaw axes. That made it smoother for me. You could also go into the CH control manager and reduce the sensitivity of that axis. That might give you smoother movements when you are deflecting the ministick only a small amount.

Question: Does anybody know how to get the throttle's hats to show up as hats instead of buttons in directx? The 8-way hat shows up as POV 0 in AH but all the other hats show up as buttons. I don't see any way to change this in the CH software.

funkedup · « **Reply #43 on:** July 18, 2001, 10:34:00 PM »

Another thing Bob:
In the control manager when you look at the ministick axes, you can look under "gain and sensitivity settings" and set a sensitivity number (I mentioned it above) and a dead zone number (which is redundant because of the AH dead zone adjustment), but there is also a response curve (a little graph with up/down arrows).

This is basically the good old expo adjustment as known to R/Cers. Try lowering the response curve by hitting the down arrow a few times. This will give the stick less sensitivity near center and full authority as you move further from center.

Starbird · « **Reply #44 on:** July 18, 2001, 11:00:00 PM »

Use your expo!

It will help smooth out your control inputs immensly, if properly setup.