FW-190A-3 5/JG1. Shark Mouth.

[lyric1]

OK I think this aircraft will fall under the 190A-5 category? I have two of the same photo but from two different books plus a profile.
So who ever wants to do it claim it now.

One request though please if you can't do this skin justice don't claim it because you want credit for a cool Luft skin.

[oakranger]

That is a good find....it looks like a clown.

[Krusty]

The A-3 is a bit of a stretch on the A-5 airframe. We might have one already skinned, but the early models were a little bit different.

Also, with the small position of the mouth, it would stretch horribly. I know this because I skinned Herman Graff's tulip-pattern onto that plane! It's a left-and-right stretch so you would have no details whatsoever in this area. At best you could do the eyes. That isn't too impressive.

[Plazus]

I wonder if HTC will fix the 3D modeling of the engine cowling on the 190 radials? They look a bit too blocky. If so, it might help tame the stretching issues that you skinners have on the nose of the plane. Neat plane profile, lyric1!

[Treize69]

That is a good find....it looks like a clown.

Does look rather cheeky.

[Megalodon]

they do seem to smile at ya..


Have another

[oakranger]

Looking at it more, it reminds me of one of the kid rides at the fair. 

[Krusty]

It mentions training school, and fledglings. I'd bet it's not a combat plane. Also it's an A-1 despite what the captions above say, you can see this. The A-1 didn't have the MG151/20s ready, so the inboard guns were 7m MG17s. It had 4 synchronized MG17s and 2 outboard MG/FFs. On top of that the A-1 was a very different plane from the A-5 we have in game.

I'd say it doesn't even remotely fit, based on all this.

EDIT: Correction, the first one was an A-1, that's what I was thinking of. The one below that (in Megalodon's post) has MG151/20s, and the one below that is some bastardized censored/airbrushed version of the plane that doesn't even resemble a Fw190.

[Stoney]

It mentions training school, and fledglings. I'd bet it's not a combat plane. Also it's an A-1 despite what the captions above say, you can see this. The A-1 didn't have the MG151/20s ready, so the inboard guns were 7m MG17s. It had 4 synchronized MG17s and 2 outboard MG/FFs. On top of that the A-1 was a very different plane from the A-5 we have in game.

I'd say it doesn't even remotely fit, based on all this.

EDIT: Correction, the first one was an A-1, that's what I was thinking of. The one below that (in Megalodon's post) has MG151/20s, and the one below that is some bastardized censored/airbrushed version of the plane that doesn't even resemble a Fw190.

Well, we've got P-47D-30 skins on the P-47D-40, P-47C skins on the P-47D11, F6F-3 skins on the F6F-5, etc.  I figure if HTC will let that kind of stuff slide, then what's the matter with an A-1/3 skin on an A-5? 

[Krusty]

The early Fw190s had severe engine issues, overheating, teething problems... Their speed was slower and their boost was lower. On top of that the A-1s had a mere fraction of the firepower that the A-5 would have available.

It would be akin to putting a 109E-7 skin on a 109F-4 airframe.

[lyric1]

Another picture I found with similar markings. The picture was captioned France 1942? For what that is worth.

[Stoney]

The early Fw190s had severe engine issues, overheating, teething problems... Their speed was slower and their boost was lower. On top of that the A-1s had a mere fraction of the firepower that the A-5 would have available.

It would be akin to putting a 109E-7 skin on a 109F-4 airframe.

The F6F-3 didn't have water injection, nor did the P-47C or the early D's.  The D-23 skins we have in the D-11 pool had substantially better performance than the D-11 out of the factory.  About the only thing that stayed consistent was airframe and gun armament.

Just saying that, given HTCs previous flexibility on other models, you could probably make a case for this skin, especially since it has a unique, interesting look that would bring something new to the 190A5 skin collection.

[IrishOne]

A5 already has quite a few skins, and while i'm all for new ones, i'd prefer that they be actual A5 skins, not the kid-touching clown look of that A1.  it's not scary looking, it's creepy!  it looks like it's dying to give you some candy and invite you inside....weeeeeeird

[Krusty]

Stoney, I get what you're saying... But I think some airframes are very different and others are very similar. As the Fw190 is one of my favorite planes in WW2 (not just in this game) I would say it is very different, personally, in this case. Maybe I'm a bit biased, maybe not.

Plus the other side of it is the training ride (non-combat), and the fact that it really couldn't be skinned well to begin with (stretching), overall the entire package is a big "no" for me in regards to how it qualifies for AH.

[lyric1]

Stoney, I get what you're saying... But I think some airframes are very different and others are very similar. As the Fw190 is one of my favorite planes in WW2 (not just in this game) I would say it is very different, personally, in this case. Maybe I'm a bit biased, maybe not.

Plus the other side of it is the training ride (non-combat), and the fact that it really couldn't be skinned well to begin with (stretching), overall the entire package is a big "no" for me in regards to how it qualifies for AH.

The training part is a little in question I think. Some web sites state that it is unknown if that particular aircraft was a full time trainer or not that Megaoldon posted? The aircraft I posted is not the same as his. Personally I don't care much either way I shall leave it to the skinners & HTC to decide it's fate.