P47M's 490mph in level flight?

[Masherbrum]

30k +?  We need Chalenge to address the issue.

[columbus]

i dont think i can ever remember seeing anyone flying at 30k even 20k is a rare thing.

[Jayhawk]

i dont think i can ever remember seeing anyone flying at 30k even 20k is a rare thing.

You haven't been playing very long have you? 

[Westy]

lol.

It was bad enough having players with nary any knowledge of WWII air combat,
let alone aviation in general, quote from the History Channel and then from
Wikipedia but now some are referring to posts made in another forum?

[LLogann]

 

30k +?  We need Chalenge to address the issue.

[W7LPNRICK]

A bit of advice for future research (and this is not meant to be offensive, just good life lessons):  Learn what a reputable source is, and remember that anyone can put something up on the internet, and can even make it look very professional.  You will probably never cite from a forum.  Follow the information.  If what the person is saying has any merit, they will probably also have cited information, this guy did post a link to another page (probably only his own website though) but that link was broken.

You said later that you didn't believe the number was correct, why not just cite the forum and ask outright if this was right or not?  You would have gotten your answer quicker and easier.

There are a lot of guys on here who know what they are talking about, and don't ever think you can trick them by saying something that is not true, you will be eaten alive.  Just a fair warning.

Unfortunately, very true. I used to love to watch History channel clips about aircraft during WWII, but since flying in this game I have noticed how horribly inaccurate their claims are & they way they try to hype and dramatize every statistic for the best emotional impact. All very poorly researched. The ONLY time they get some of it straight, is when they have a surviving pilot on camera. 

[Widewing]

your not going the research for me  i already told you what i found.

cited from :http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=102586
2. Republic P-47M and P-47N given priority - fast versions of P-47. Development started in November 1942. P-47M enters production July 1943, operational October 1943. Definitive P-47N operational January 1944, replacing the P-47D. P-47M normal top speed is 470 mph, but in emergency boost will do 490 mph. Long-range P-47N normal top speed is slightly slower at 467 mph, but this aircraft has a much longer range than the P-51M and can easily go from England to Poland and back, or loiter over Me262 bases for 2 hours waiting for jets to take off or land.

The bulk of this post is nothing less than complete crap... Time line, speeds, etc.

The fastest speed recorded for the P-47M was that of the XP-47M, which attained 488 mph, over-boosted to 80" of MAP. Your standard P-47M was rated at 475 mph using Combat power. This was with wing pylons. Without, it was capable of about 8 to 10 mph more. However, every P-47M issued was immediately fitted with wing pylons. Range was too short without external tanks.

Want a solid, accurate history of the P-47? Go here: http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/aircraft/index.html and click on the link to the P-47 history. This is THE most accurate history of the Jug on the web. Aviation historian and author Warren Bodie provided much of the research documentation and photographs. The author of the piece is a guy known to Aces High old timers.... 

[MiloMorai]

Well it is a 'what if' stipulating that the P-47M/N are given priority.

[morfiend]

The bulk of this post is nothing less than complete crap... Time line, speeds, etc.

The fastest speed recorded for the P-47M was that of the XP-47M, which attained 488 mph, over-boosted to 80" of MAP. Your standard P-47M was rated at 475 mph using Combat power. This was with wing pylons. Without, it was capable of about 8 to 10 mph more. However, every P-47M issued was immediately fitted with wing pylons. Range was too short without external tanks.

Want a solid, accurate history of the P-47? Go here: http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/aircraft/index.html and click on the link to the P-47 history. This is THE most accurate history of the Jug on the web. Aviation historian and author Warren Bodie provided much of the research documentation and photographs. The author of the piece is a guy known to Aces High old timers.... 

   Nice link Wide,who's that Jordan guy anyways!!!!


   

[OOZ662]

and can even make it look very professional.

I'm suddenly reminded of this, which I had looked up after seeing the word referenced in a cute image. I gut laughed the whole time after I double-taked and hunted the sources of the real info to base my reversion. The sad thing is that it was there through five edits by two users who didn't bother to look up the real info since it was snuck in by some guy who claimed to be "reverting" vandalous edits...which he did, but he contributed a little "extra."

[bj229r]

P-47M enters production July 1943, operational October 1943.

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[WWhiskey]

No prop plane flies at 475 at 1-5k alt. Even 400 is something WWII planes were barely capable of in this range.

that's a pretty broad statement!   it could be construed wrongly, maybe you should have said WW2 planes only!

I give you the F8F   rare bear
http://www.rarebear.com/rarebear/records/
While I do not know the required alt at the race track during the races,( i bet it ain't very high)
and she is a long stretch from the post WW2 plane she started out as,, she is still radial engined and propeller driven!
yet 495mph only got her a second place at Reno in 2003!
Rare Bear has also set many performance records for piston-driven aircraft, including the 3 km World Speed Record of 528.33 mph (850.26 km/h) set August 21 1989, and a new time-to-climb record (3,000 meters in 91.9 seconds set in 1972 (9842.4 ft - 6,426 fpm), breaking a 1946 record set in a stock Bearcat).

[bozon]

that's a pretty broad statement!   it could be construed wrongly, maybe you should have said WW2 planes only!

Yes I was referring to WWII period and just excluding the jets.

edit:
btw, check out the specification for that plane. The engine is over boosted to insanity. Using NOx they say it get over 4000 HP...

[Imowface]

that's a pretty broad statement!   it could be construed wrongly, maybe you should have said WW2 planes only!

I give you the F8F   rare bear
http://www.rarebear.com/rarebear/records/
While I do not know the required alt at the race track during the races,( i bet it ain't very high)
and she is a long stretch from the post WW2 plane she started out as,, she is still radial engined and propeller driven!
yet 495mph only got her a second place at Reno in 2003!
Rare Bear has also set many performance records for piston-driven aircraft, including the 3 km World Speed Record of 528.33 mph (850.26 km/h) set August 21 1989, and a new time-to-climb record (3,000 meters in 91.9 seconds set in 1972 (9842.4 ft - 6,426 fpm), breaking a 1946 record set in a stock Bearcat).

rear bear is a modified F8F, far from what was on its way to the PTO in ww2, and the prior plane that held the speed record rear bear broke was the Me-209