Civilization 5 (Best CIV Yet)

[Fulmar]

I have Civ3 gold edition, it's a bit more difficult than it's predecessors but...almost like it better than Civ4.

Before some of the patches (especially in 3), the AI wasn't very bright.  And when I'm talking about this, I'm talking war time.  I played a more 3 than 4, but I really can't recall many 'games' i played in 4.

[Fulmar]

It isnt the idea that could be evil, it is in the potential for rootkits and other invasive DRM infestations from their implementation.

Never had any remote issues close this.  I've used Steam since its horrible beginnings.  It's come a long way and Steam sales are about the single best thing they offer.  I remember buying Left 4 Dead 2 on black friday for like $30, much better than the "pre-order" 10% discount offered 3 weeks prior.  I rarely buy games in stores anymore.  I think the last one I did was Company of Heroes.

[Vudak]

Civ2 will always be the best.  You don't have to have hundreds of dollars worth of equipment or a PhD to mod it into absolutely anything you want.

[sntslilhlpr6601]

Never had any remote issues close this.  I've used Steam since its horrible beginnings.  It's come a long way and Steam sales are about the single best thing they offer.  I remember buying Left 4 Dead 2 on black friday for like $30, much better than the "pre-order" 10% discount offered 3 weeks prior.  I rarely buy games in stores anymore.  I think the last one I did was Company of Heroes.

Yep. Last Christmas Eve I got the Id Superpack for 23 bucks!

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/440/

[branch37]

Just had a CTD that threw me back literally 100 years from 1978 

[Swoop]

I'm trying to hold off on civ 5 for a while......mainly cos for the last year I've been playing a mod for Civ 4 called Rise of Mankind.  Which, quite frankly, turns Civ 4 into the bestest game in the history of gaming.  Once they've made a start on the same mod for civ 5 I'll convert.....cos after RoM you just can't ever go back to vanilla civ.

[gyrene81]

I'm trying to hold off on civ 5 for a while......mainly cos for the last year I've been playing a mod for Civ 4 called Rise of Mankind.  Which, quite frankly, turns Civ 4 into the bestest game in the history of gaming.  Once they've made a start on the same mod for civ 5 I'll convert.....cos after RoM you just can't ever go back to vanilla civ.

That sounds intriguing Swoop... is it a mod off one of the expansions or straight Civ4?

[Swoop]

Mod for Beyond the Sword expansion.

If you're gonna find it download v2.81, NOT the latest v2.92.  2.81 is stable and well balanced, 2.92 is quite recent, full of bugs and completely unbalanced.  People know this, hence why 2.81 is still available for download.


Edit: in fact here ya go:  http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273373
Click the SHOW older files button just under the latest version links.

[Gixer]

Yes more I've put into it now, easily the best version of CIV yet I enjoyed all the CIVs and probably CIV4 the most, but this is far better. Lots of great gameplay additions that really make this version stand out as an exceptional strategy game. For a vanilla version new release it's excellent, actually quite amazed thought the days of really good PC games without mods were over.

Interface and graphics are leagues ahead of any previous version especially when running maxed out, graphics of other leaders in DX11 are excellent. Nice touch is the interface highlights any unit with a turn remaining. Workers for instance, you can no longer just cover the map in roads and have to think about them stratagically as each tile of road costs 1 gold maintenance.

Diplomacy is much easier to manage and AI far better than I can remember in any previous version.

And again, not being able to stack units and introducing tiles strategically makes any battles a great improvement. Just like playing an old table top war game, you can have pikemen infront of your ranged units and deploy them far more strategically then before.

Anyone who has even the slightest interest in strategy titles especially previous CIV players really need to have a look at this, don't have any pre-conceived notions about how much better any previous CIV2 or CIV4 versions were even with any mod their not. Unless you have some dated PC and stil stuck playing games 10 years old this version is the best.


<S>...-Gixer

[Swoop]

I disagree Gixer.

I relented.....and now wish I hadn't.  Civ 5 is.....simplistic compared to a RoM modded civ 4, I look at the tech tree in 5, sigh and try to remind myself it's not finished yet.

Sure the graphics are nice but flashy graphics was never what civ was about.  5 reminds me more of a console based RTS game that's been made into a turn based game.  And the non stackable armies are annoying the **** out of me, it simply means that when you attack someone the unit you attack with is gonna die next turn from the counter attack and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

I may well be shelving 5 until after an expansion or two and RoM makes it's appearance.

[Stalwart]

Found Sid Meierīs Civilization (1995 DOS version) free on Abandonia: http://www.abandonia.com/

[Vudak]

Anyone who has even the slightest interest in strategy titles especially previous CIV players really need to have a look at this, don't have any pre-conceived notions about how much better any previous CIV2 or CIV4 versions were even with any mod their not. Unless you have some dated PC and stil stuck playing games 10 years old this version is the best.

I'd be willing to bet the vanilla version is the best, but if it takes a rocket scientist to mod it, you're always going to be stuck with the vanilla version.

With Civ2 you've got a game that covers every period in history, sci fi, and fantasy down to often minute details.  If you don't like one scenario, you've got thousands more to try, with many still being constructed.

Civ2's simplicity is what makes it awesome.  And once you've designed a few scenarios, you come to appreciate the little tricks designers are still coming up with to change it ever more with each scenario released.

It's not "dated" by any means.

[Lusche]

I had them all from CIV I to IV, but the only one that I'm still playing is CIV II.

[gyrene81]

Mod for Beyond the Sword expansion.

If you're gonna find it download v2.81, NOT the latest v2.92.  2.81 is stable and well balanced, 2.92 is quite recent, full of bugs and completely unbalanced.  People know this, hence why 2.81 is still available for download.


Edit: in fact here ya go:  http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273373
Click the SHOW older files button just under the latest version links.

Dang, I got 2.92 before you mentioned it. Got a lockup around 1087A.D.

Is it 2.81 or 2.91 that I want?

[Swoop]

Dang, I got 2.92 before you mentioned it. Got a lockup around 1087A.D.

Is it 2.81 or 2.91 that I want?

2.81


In 2.9x ranged bombardment doesn't work properly, warlord units are incorrectly flagged as pirates (so you can't keep em safe cos even friendly AI units will attack them in your territory) and the guilds system is daft.