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Offline Babalonian

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Re: IM DONE WITH IT!!!! MUSEUM PROJECT!~~warning- lots of pics~~
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2010, 03:12:28 PM »
You shouldn't of sealed/nailed/glued the blocks in, really good job, I see you put in a board up against the building in the raised planters. 

Those type of blocks (called Keystone-Legacy lipped blocks), though it doesn't seem like it, hold very very well when dry stacked well and put right up against the sides of adjacent blocks, especialy after being filled with soil/mix from behind.  Also, dry stacking is really the only way to go with them, it allows for the planter or hill behind them to settle and adequatley drain through the wall during heavy rains.  Most suprisingly to me, they make for very stable and sturdy retaining walls, drystacked and without anchors because if you notice they slant back as they stack up, they're lipped in the bottom back of the block so they can't be straight 90-degree stacked (specificaly the lipped Keystones).  Just stack them neat and tight together and fill in behind them as you work up, I redid an old and failing wood-tie ~100' long retaining wall in my parents back yard with these same blocks about 8 years ago, 4'-tall (4'-6" total if you count the first couple of blocks that are the foundation and buried on the front face), hasn't budged a smidge and drains the hill behind it during storms a lot better than the wood ties with perforated pipe behind them ever did... I might be overhyping these blocks, but only because wood-tie planter walls and retaining walls are/were complete junk after a couple years in the weather and after being climbed upon compared to these blocks.  I even saw a 50' tall (very long too, maybe 300-400' with a gentle 90-degree bow) retaining wall done last fall with the larger variety of Keystones that have a hollow space in the middle of the block to allow for planting, I'm not sure what the civil did to make such a huge dry stack meet all the code since the manufacturers don't honestly recomend using them for walls higher than 3-feet, but that may have more to do with codes out here requiring any retaining wall higher than 3-foot to be certified as professionaly engineered.

http://www.angelusblock.com/products/retaining_wall_systems.cfm
http://www.angelusblock.com/docs/Angelus_Keystone_Landscape_Units.pdf




I'm a drafter in the Landscape Architecture/Design for about ten years now, those blocks for retaining walls or planter walls have gotten mighty popular in the last decade (they're cheap, easy to install, sturdy and most importantly they last for a very very long time).
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Re: IM DONE WITH IT!!!! MUSEUM PROJECT!~~warning- lots of pics~~
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2010, 03:33:50 PM »
If you don't glue them down around here , they will not be there in the morning , lol .
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Re: IM DONE WITH IT!!!! MUSEUM PROJECT!~~warning- lots of pics~~
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2010, 03:35:16 PM »
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Re: IM DONE WITH IT!!!! MUSEUM PROJECT!~~warning- lots of pics~~
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2010, 04:15:36 PM »
If you don't glue them down around here , they will not be there in the morning , lol .

Going off the list prices I was familiar with 5-6 years ago, that's just wierd, a couple of guys in a pickup truck would make more money off a truck full of recyclables or sand from the desert out here.  We only have to worry about metal and copper really out here.  Those blocks are really cheap (not to mention the 12" high variety are pretty heavy and would take a pickup truck full of strong guys a while to load any worthwhile quantity).  I just can't see the black market taking an interest unless they can pawn em off as legitimate and full price... then again if your some joe and pay home-depot price for them you probabley deserve to have Pablo pawn them off on ya for a couple bucks cheaper.  We also make sure to specify they get filled behind and then compacted, the "pressure" from the weight pushing from behind them locks them in place pretty good, and it would take a bit of digging and noise to get them out.
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Re: IM DONE WITH IT!!!! MUSEUM PROJECT!~~warning- lots of pics~~
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2010, 10:11:11 PM »
its true though, and that was the only reason i was considering it... they dont take them to resell... they are stealing them to use at their own house.

my sister lives in robinson and i helped them do this with the 16in blocks and last year, they came home and like 6 were missing from the back of the wall at the bottom where they were least visable. also the larger bricks are hallow. for example the 16in bricks my sis got have 2 hollow sections cut out of the bottom. If i remember right, the 16in bricks actually weigh less than the 12in ones.

at my house we did this a couple of years ago. ended up using like some 600 brick. the highest one we have is about 6 foot tall and it hasnt moved at all. we filled in behind it with rock and then there is like a foot or so of dirt on top of the rocks. The only thing bad about that is as you get higher, it gets narrower because of the setback from the lip.

your pic is a different designed version than the ones i used at home and over there. the lip is only about 3/4-1in max and are not 12in deep. I think that is just the pic though.
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