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Offline W7LPNRICK

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Watching Battle of the bulge
« on: October 20, 2010, 03:13:26 PM »
I didn't see a single Tiger in the attacking horde of German tanks. They all looked like M-47 Patton' s with a few M-60's mixed in. I was hoping to see and recognize a few.  :(
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2010, 03:27:06 PM »
If you watch Tora Tora Tora or Midway or any other of the myriad of Hollywoold WW2 movies from the past and you'll see that the Japanese planes aren't Zekes but rather what are known as "Hollywood Zekes", which are Texan trainers modified to look like a Zeke.


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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2010, 03:29:16 PM »
The first movie rule is "suspension of reality"

You are correct, but at the same time, it's a movie.... And a GREAT movie at that!!!

By 1965, it was hard as heck to get any Tigers or Shermans for the movie.  Although I would have liked them to "mock" them up a little to look like King Tigers in the final scene.  
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 03:31:41 PM »
And may I just add one more thing........

Ob's stürmt oder schneit,
Ob die Sonne uns lacht
Der Tag glühend heiß
Oder eiskalt die Nacht
Bestaubt sind die Gesichter
Doch froh ist unser Sinn
Ist unser Sinn
Es braust unser Panzer
Im Sturmwind dahin
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2010, 04:56:35 PM »
Did you mean... Ob's stürmt oder schneit, ob die Sonne uns lacht, Der Tag glühend heiß, oder eiskalt die Nacht, Bestaubt sind die Gesichter, doch froh ist unser Sinn,. Ja, unser Sinn,. Es braust unser Panzer im Sturmwind dahin.  :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lh6NUaXx6I

or with English subs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hjDEbq6Yg4&feature=related
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2010, 05:03:03 PM »
Same with Patton.
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2010, 10:16:06 PM »
Quote from: W7LPNRICK on October 20, 2010, 03:13:26 PM
I didn't see a single Tiger in the attacking horde of German tanks. They all looked like M-47 Patton' s with a few M-60's mixed in. I was hoping to see and recognize a few.  :(

How many operational Tigers do you think are still out there?

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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 05:36:02 PM »
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 10:16:45 PM »
Heck with that song.  Lets get serious about war movie theme songs.  And while not really Tigers, they did mock up those T34-85s to look the part anyway.  And you have to love Oddball's M4A3 (76) :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBr2Xh599ZI&feature=related
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 12:08:00 PM »
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 12:16:19 PM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on October 20, 2010, 10:16:06 PM
How many operational Tigers do you think are still out there?



THOUSANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :uhoh
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 06:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on October 20, 2010, 10:16:06 PM
How many operational Tigers do you think are still out there?

Would seem that only one is in running order.

Aberdeen Tiger    
This Tiger, originally assigned to the German heavy panzer unit s.Pz.Abt. 501, was captured in North Africa in 1943. The panzer was subsequently shipped by the U.S. Army to Aberdeen Proving Grounds for testing and analysis. (See Yank article.) After the war, the Tiger was displayed at Aberdeen for many years. But as of September 2005, this tank is not at Aberdeen, but is in Europe for restoration.

Bovington Tiger    
This Tiger was also captured in North Africa. The Tiger was originally assigned to the German heavy panzer unit s.Pz.Abt. 504 with tactical number 131. After capture, the Tiger was shipped back to England for analysis. This Tiger is being restored to running order by The Tank Museum at Bovington. See http://www.tiger-tank.com/ for a journal of the restoration.

Saumur Tiger    
This late Tiger I was captured in France and is currently on display at Musée des blindés in Saumur, France.

Vimoutiers Tiger    
This Tiger was destroyed near the town of Vimoutiers, France during the German retreat from Normandy. After the war, the tank was largely forgotten and left to rust in a ditch. In the 1970s, the Tiger was moved to a display in the town, slightly patched, and repainted. This Tiger is in poor condition.

Kubinka Tiger    
The Russian tank museum at Kubinka houses a surviving rubber-wheeled Tiger in good condition.

Snegiri Tiger    
Originally used as a target at Russian proving grounds, this heavily damaged Tiger was displayed outdoors at the Lenino-Snegiri Museum of Military History. At one time, the Tiger was apparently moved to a museum in Saratov, Russia.
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2010, 09:12:07 PM »
I got to climb around on the Vimoutiers Tiger.  It was something to see up close.  I think it was  blown up by the crew when they ran out of fuel.  Big cracks in the armor.  Still an impressive machine.
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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 11:40:14 AM »
Tiger II at the Patton Museum, at least it was until last month when they shut it down.





Also one at Bovington.

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Re: Watching Battle of the bulge
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 01:08:53 AM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on October 22, 2010, 10:16:45 PM
Heck with that song.  Lets get serious about war movie theme songs.  And while not really Tigers, they did mock up those T34-85s to look the part anyway.  And you have to love Oddball's M4A3 (76) :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBr2Xh599ZI&feature=related
Yup. specially after it got the turret blown off and he was wanting to go ram the Nazi's. Har!!  :rofl
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