Author Topic: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?  (Read 1394 times)

Offline Pkun

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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 01:10:18 PM »
Ki43-I were not mass producted with 12.7mm x2 and 7.7mm x2.
Ki43-I were mass producted only 7.7mm and 12.7mm.

Ki43-II and Ki43-III had 12.7mm x2.
and ki43-IIIotsu(have 20mmx2) were not mass producted, becuase IJA have plan using Ki43 for kamikaze.

I sad Ki43 was not selected...
if ki43 was selected, I write some data of ki43.
(ki43's data on wikipedia is terrible.)

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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 02:46:11 PM »
Hopefully the Ki-43 is added sooner rather than later though.  A Ki-43-I with the single 12.7mm and single 7.7mm gun and a Ki-43-II with two 12.7mm guns and some protection at the same time would be ideal.  The Ki-43-III seems more of a luxury than a necessity.
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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2010, 03:16:35 PM »
  The Ki-43-III seems more of a luxury than a necessity.

But its almost 30 mph faster than ki-43-ii, and the best thing about it is you still get to keep its legendary manuverability :aok

The III would make an acceptable perk farming plane in late MA and I think it should have the same ENY rating as spit 1.
For mark I and II the eny rating should be higher than spit 1.

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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 05:41:26 PM »
I want Ki-43-II.
because Ki-43-II was produced most a lot in ki-43 series.(about 3500)
but I think HTC notice it's a difficult decide Ki-43-II's flight model.
because many people don't know, Ki-43-II have 3 types.
it's a ,
having exclusive tank(1943may-oct) ,
having standard tank and 1 ejector exhaust stack(1943 oct-1944),
having standard tank and 3 ejector exhaust stacks(late ver).
thay had different performance each. especially max speed.
after 2types Ki43-II and -III 's protection is same level to Ki84.

I think it's a easy releace ki-43-III(about 1100 built!).

and I worry, ho-103(ki-43's machine canon)  having HE is set low damage.
(Browning don't have HE.)
ho-103's HE was powerful.
1943 December,1 USAAF B24x58(No308group and No7 group )with P38Jx15 attacked to Rangoon.
Ki-43-II(64sq, 204sq)x50 Ki-45x4 attacked against this group.
B24x10 were shot down by ack and Ki-43-II,  and 10 had damege (thay were total loss on the base)

but, Ho-103 on Ki61 is weak on MA....

sorry poor english.

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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 09:51:20 PM »
If there were 1,100 Ki-43-IIIs built, I would say we should get all three major versions.  Whether the two Ho-5 20mm cannon loadout should be available for the Ki-43-III is another story.  I am inclined to say it should, but I can see valid reasons not to include it.

I am not so sure on the Ho-103 damage though.  I have always found the two Ho-103s on the Ki-84 to be quite capable of killing things after I run out of Ho-5 ammo.  Certainly, they are vastly superior to the quad of .303s my Mossie is left with after running out of 20mm ammo.


You're English is not perfect, true, but you are quite easy to understand nonetheless and your contribution to the thread is appreciated.
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Re: Ki-43 armaments: Less options than you thought?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 10:06:15 PM »
If there's indeed clear proof that Ki-43-I wasn't produced with 2xHo-103s, then it of course shouldn't have them in the game. the article in the original post talked about the loadout as if was indeed produced even if the numbers were small.

If there were 1,100 Ki-43-IIIs built, I would say we should get all three major versions.  Whether the two Ho-5 20mm cannon loadout should be available for the Ki-43-III is another story.  I am inclined to say it should, but I can see valid reasons not to include it.

Largely because of the production numbers, I've been wanting to see all three variants for a while now. IMO all three major variants should be included due to the type's importance to the IJAAF. There were only two prototypes built with the 2xHo-5 setup. Those prototypes were quite different from the regular IIIs. The nose had to be lengthened by 200mm to make the cannons fit and the combat flaps were replaced with regular split flaps.
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