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Offline Wildcat1

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2010, 08:10:12 PM »
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2010, 08:14:00 PM »
Quote from: Wildcat1 on November 18, 2010, 08:10:12 PM
does that imply something? :lol

nah...

Kermit is my old CO and great friend...and from time to time I like to poke him with a sharp stick...

Because he is a frog and he is in love with a pig...

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2010, 08:18:30 PM »
Quote from: oneway on November 18, 2010, 08:14:00 PM
nah...

Kermit is my old CO and great friend...and from time to time I like to poke him with a sharp stick...

Because he is a frog and he is in love with a pig...

 :)

all in good fun  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2010, 07:46:41 AM »
Some troop-type ideas: -

1. Dropping troops near a Shore Battery and they take it out instead of running to the town.
2. Dropping troops near a Field and they take out an AA gun instead of running to the town.
3. Dropping troops on enemy troops and they all stop and shoot it out until last man standing.
4. We have pill boxes, m/g nests that need to be occupied by friendly troops. However, like Vehicle Supplies, this effect doesn't last long.
-- Dropping your own troops in own town, on own field or on own Shore Battery poulates the pill boxes, m/g nests to defend against enemy troops.
6. Perked 'Special Forces' can be given a specific military target - i.e. defensive gun, Radar or a Bomber/Fighter/Vehicle Hanger and they take it out if they survive.

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2010, 08:35:56 AM »
Special Forces sounds pretty awesome, however i highly doubt that it will ever happen   :frown:
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2010, 08:54:15 AM »
We need troops modeled after the man, the myth, the legend...
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2010, 08:57:34 AM »
then you'd only need one per country :)
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2010, 09:18:03 AM »
Read 'Commandos' rather than special forces <sigh>
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2010, 08:41:45 AM »
Quote from: Martyn on November 19, 2010, 07:46:41 AM
Some troop-type ideas: -

1. Dropping troops near a Shore Battery and they take it out instead of running to the town.
2. Dropping troops near a Field and they take out an AA gun instead of running to the town.
3. Dropping troops on enemy troops and they all stop and shoot it out until last man standing.
4. We have pill boxes, m/g nests that need to be occupied by friendly troops. However, like Vehicle Supplies, this effect doesn't last long.
-- Dropping your own troops in own town, on own field or on own Shore Battery poulates the pill boxes, m/g nests to defend against enemy troops.
6. Perked 'Special Forces' can be given a specific military target - i.e. defensive gun, Radar or a Bomber/Fighter/Vehicle Hanger and they take it out if they survive.



these are all great ideas, but my fear is that this game would turn into a shooter game instead of a flight sim that way
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2010, 09:36:43 AM »
Quote from: waystin2 on November 19, 2010, 08:54:15 AM
We need troops modeled after the man, the myth, the legend...

you could drop 1 Chuck Norris and take over a whole country  :rock
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Offline SectorNine50

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2010, 03:40:09 PM »
Quote from: Wildcat1 on November 20, 2010, 08:41:45 AM
these are all great ideas, but my fear is that this game would turn into a shooter game instead of a flight sim that way

I think it would be kind of neat, that way you actually need to drop a ton of paratroopers to take a town, then you can help out your paratroopers by doing strafing runs on the enemy lines! :devil

ALL OUT WAAAAARRRRR! :x

That was the ONE aspect of WWII Online air combat that I loved...  Strafing runs...  Hehehehe... :joystick:
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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2010, 06:09:24 PM »
Quote from: M0nkey_Man on November 20, 2010, 09:36:43 AM
you could drop 1 Chuck Norris and take over a whole country  :rock

Mention MrBlack just once and the whole country surrenders and Chuck Norris wets his pants.

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Offline Martyn

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2010, 03:56:12 AM »
I don't think it'll change the game too much - you're just targetting the troops at something more specific.

A commando raid from a boat or LVT to take out a shore battery should be relatively easy to engineer - even using the stiff guys we have now.

Hopefully the graphics won't be too much of a problem, they're either running or they're lying down on the ground shooting (although kneeling and standing would be nice, I'm not sure how easy it is for the program to decide which pose to take). Movement should only take place over level ground, so no house/tree hopping anymore (please).

A nice touch would be - when 'our' troops encounter 'their' troops, both sides hit the dirt for a fire fight. As time ticks by each side loses a man. Every now and then a coloured smoke pot could indicate a 'request for a strike' on the enemy - and that could be automated too. That would be great for the F4 Corsairs and other mud thumpers.

However, I have concerns about players putting too many troops into a single location just to see the fight. The server would have its work cut out trying to coordinate even the dumb troops and us tankers must see the same troops in the same locations - so I'm guessing that some sort of local limit count on the troops would be needed. The devil's in the detail.
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Offline SectorNine50

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2010, 11:30:04 PM »
Quote from: Martyn on November 23, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
I don't think it'll change the game too much - you're just targetting the troops at something more specific.

A commando raid from a boat or LVT to take out a shore battery should be relatively easy to engineer - even using the stiff guys we have now.

Hopefully the graphics won't be too much of a problem, they're either running or they're lying down on the ground shooting (although kneeling and standing would be nice, I'm not sure how easy it is for the program to decide which pose to take). Movement should only take place over level ground, so no house/tree hopping anymore (please).

A nice touch would be - when 'our' troops encounter 'their' troops, both sides hit the dirt for a fire fight. As time ticks by each side loses a man. Every now and then a coloured smoke pot could indicate a 'request for a strike' on the enemy - and that could be automated too. That would be great for the F4 Corsairs and other mud thumpers.

However, I have concerns about players putting too many troops into a single location just to see the fight. The server would have its work cut out trying to coordinate even the dumb troops and us tankers must see the same troops in the same locations - so I'm guessing that some sort of local limit count on the troops would be needed. The devil's in the detail.


Apparently the servers have a lot of headroom.  Someone said that at peak play times, the servers hardly ever very much processor usage.  I think this would be cool as well.

I'd mostly like to see them move as squads, as opposed to running in a stupid line...
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Offline Martyn

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Re: Updated Troops.
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2010, 03:29:19 AM »
Quote from: SectorNine50 on November 26, 2010, 11:30:04 PM
Apparently the servers have a lot of headroom.  Someone said that at peak play times, the servers hardly ever very much processor usage.  I think this would be cool as well.

I'd mostly like to see them move as squads, as opposed to running in a stupid line...
So, is there a bottleneck in the comms? I hope not. I notice when upping from a carrier, if my mates also spawn at the same time then their planes sometimes appear to be spawning in mid-air away from the flightdeck. I assume this is a lag / other time related issue.

I figure the troops' positions would be managed on the server but the actual rendering would have to be done locally. So people might complain if their PCs started chugging when trying to render an Airborne brigade invading a field.
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