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Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« on: December 04, 2010, 08:43:17 PM »
Any tips on that. Can't never seem to get it right. Seems to have cropping on some channels. Currently set at 720p and zoom 15. Any less and it doesn't cover the whole screen.

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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 10:48:56 PM »
Some broadcasts arent meant to cover the whole screen because of the way they are filmed. I have a 50" plasma. I tend to notice this on HD channels more by program rather then the channel itself as some stations are broadcasting standard def shows and movies over high def channels. I notice it mostly with commercials.
It also has something to do with the way the show or commercial was filmed.
That Old Bonanza show for example shouldnt fill up your whole screen because it wasnt filmed via widescreen. It was filmed for the TV sets of the time.

If your pictures are cropped. Try zooming out

I dont have mine "zoomed" in at all. Vizio is supposed to have a built in thingie that recognizes the broadcast and will automatically adjust your screen to show the proper picture. If your getting a black frame around your picture on some channels or some stations. Its usually because of the way its being broadcast.

Took a while for my wife to get used to this idea. My inlaws never did and would always zoom in.

Try setting the zoom all the way out and leave it there and see if the picture varies from channel to channel. some stations/shows should show up full screen and others not. Depending on how they were broadcast or filmed
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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 10:58:43 PM »
Just checked out mine.
try aspect ratio of 16;9. (on "wide" on your remote) and ""zoomed" all the way out
Thats what I have mine set at
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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 08:43:38 AM »
Just checked out mine.
try aspect ratio of 16;9. (on "wide" on your remote) and ""zoomed" all the way out
Thats what I have mine set at

I've argued with myself over that because I want the higher definition. However I will give it a shot.

What does the "just scan" mean?

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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 07:34:58 PM »
I've argued with myself over that because I want the higher definition. However I will give it a shot.

What does the "just scan" mean?

If memory serves correct. That is the higher def.

"Just scan'? Where you see "just scan"?
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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 10:45:53 AM »
Keep in mind that I have no experience with the Visio brand of television, but I have a feeling that it is trying to automatically scale your non-hd or non-widescreen images, and you are trying to compensate for it by zooming in on the picture.

You shouldn't need to do this at all.

I would 'assume' that a 42" tv would be 1080p, but I've been wrong before, and it very well could only be 720p - especially if its an older model.

You have to keep in mind that there are (essentially) four TV modes in mainstream use today:

1> Standard definition
2> 420p/i
3> 720p/i
4> 1080p/i

Modes 1 and 2 are for the vast majority of the time NOT widescreen whereas 3 and 4 ARE widescreen.  When a non-widescreen picture is displayed on a widescreen display, one of two things can happen.  The picture can appear as a more 'square' image with black bars on each side... OR the picture can be stretched out horizontally to fit the whole screen which would make everything a tad bit wider.  Faces and bodies look 'heavier' and circles look more like wide ovals.

Modes 3 and 4 are widescreen, but require you to receive a high definition signal, otherwise the TV will simply 'upconvert' a lower resolution onto a higher resolution display.  Depending on the methods used by the specific hardware, this can sometimes look quite poor.

Sometimes on hi-def broadcasts, the TV/Cable channel itself will simply upconvert a low-def signal into the hi-def broadcast so that your TV actually receives a hi-def transmission even though it's 'technically' a low-def picture.  While the quality of the upconversion is usually better during this process (as opposed to your TV doing the conversion), it still can sometimes be difficult to tell what's going on in the background.  You might be able to press an 'info' button that will display the resolution of the broadcast on the screen, and if it is already 720p/i or 1080p/i then there isn't much you can do except to turn off any zoom or override settings you may have enabled.

The best advice I can give is to quit trying to manually manipulate any images on the display.  'Zooming in' isn't going to increase the picture quality (and can actually make it worse).  Some shows and commercials were made before the widescreen format was available and in this case you're best off leaving the black border on each side of the picture.  If you aren't receiving a Hi-def signal, then you are most likely getting a non widescreen low def signal and you're either going to have to deal with the black borders... or you're going to have to deal with a horizontally stretched out image.

If you do subscribe to a hi-def signal (or are receiving HD broadcasting) then you're going to need to concede to the fact that some shows, movies and commercials are simply going to have these borders.  While you can manipulate the settings to help out with this somewhat, you're constantly going to be changing things everytime a 'cropped' show comes on versus one that is natively widescreen.  It's much easier to simply get used to the cropping for now.  I don't even notice it anymore.  (As time passes and the technology progresses you'll find this to happen less and less).

My in-laws use low-def DirecTV with a hi-def widescreen television.  They have it set to stretch out the image and have gotten so used to it that when they come over and see the hi-def picture on my TV they swear up and down that my picture is 'squished' and it is that exact reason they don't want to upgrade to hi-definition.  I can't convince them otherwise so whatever.. as long as they are happy, right?

As for your 'just scan' setting, my guess is that it tells the TV not to manipulate the image any... but only to display it as it is received?

Here's a little graphic I made to help a squaddie out with understanding the whole aspect ratio/definition thing.  Also read my graphics guide HERE as it will teach you a lot too.


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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 05:30:50 PM »

If memory serves correct. That is the higher def.

"Just scan'? Where you see "just scan"?


In the Aspect ratio menu.

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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 10:35:16 PM »
In the Aspect ratio menu.

Dunno. Mine doesnt have that option. But it is several years old.

Tigger is basically re-explaining what I was trying to say.
Just set it on 16:9 and leave it the hell alone LOL
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Re: Aspect ratio on Visio 42"
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 12:19:24 AM »
Dunno. Mine doesnt have that option. But it is several years old.

Tigger is basically re-explaining what I was trying to say.
Just set it on 16:9 and leave it the hell alone LOL

Is it possible to leave things alone?  :rofl :rofl

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