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Re: Nazi
« Reply #90 on: November 28, 2010, 12:05:21 AM »
Not everyone knows what "white russia" is. Lets call it Belarussia:)

Ahh the traps of foreign languages... It's called Weißrussland in German so I lapsed and translated it literally
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« Reply #91 on: November 28, 2010, 05:13:18 AM »
SS Soldiers were all volunteers as far as I am aware, and all of those had to fit genetic and physical criteria and undergo intense "Nazification".

I hold no ill will against any member of the Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht or Kriegsmarine who acted under orders in the defence of their nation and its interests, whatever those interests may be. But any member of the SS or Gestapo and fervant or self proclaimed Nazi's, deserve to be shot, hanged or tortured until death in reverse order for what they are responsible for.

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« Reply #92 on: November 28, 2010, 05:32:39 AM »
SS Soldiers were all volunteers as far as I am aware, and all of those had to fit genetic and physical criteria and undergo intense "Nazification".

I hold no ill will against any member of the Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht or Kriegsmarine who acted under orders in the defence of their nation and its interests, whatever those interests may be. But any member of the SS or Gestapo and fervant or self proclaimed Nazi's, deserve to be shot, hanged or tortured until death in reverse order for what they are responsible for.




Just a few related words:

Only at the beginning the Waffen-SS was an all-volunteer force. From 1943 on, you could been drafted to the Waffen SS. And many of that volunteers were simply very young boys (17) who did grow up during the Third Reich and were simply going for the "best" or allegedly most "awesome" combat unit.

Also neither Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine or Luftwaffe were anti-nazi per se in any way. Many atrocities, from shooting hostages and prisoners to taking part in the final solution, were commited by regular Wehrmacht or police units. Many of them defended themselves after the war with having "acted under orders in the defence of their nation and its interests"

 While Luftwaffe & Kriegsmarine had a lower part in such events simply due to their wartime role & organisation, they still were not free for it. Particularly the Luftwaffe was known as the "national-socialistic arm", which doesn't wonder if one bears in mind when it was created and by whom. The Luftwaffe conducted  gruesome human experiments with concentration camps inmates.
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« Reply #93 on: November 28, 2010, 05:40:23 AM »
I wanted to stay out of this thread... but this ^^^^ is for most part a myth.

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« Reply #94 on: November 28, 2010, 05:51:49 AM »
"Our revenge is to live. We may be hunted like animals but we will never become animals. We have all chosen this - to live free, like human beings. For as long as we can. Each day of freedom is a victory. If we die trying to live, at least we die like human beings." Tuvia- Movie Defiance.

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« Reply #95 on: November 28, 2010, 07:33:05 PM »
Figured they would all be gone by now.

Here in NJ just a few years ago they found a guy that I believe they said was a camp guard or something of that nature. The story was in the local news papers for a bit. If my memory serves me his son was a NJ state police officer. Last I heard they were sending him back to wherever it was his crimes took place.
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Re: Nazi
« Reply #96 on: November 28, 2010, 07:56:59 PM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #97 on: November 29, 2010, 01:54:01 AM »
Germany's honor? what a strange and odd thing to talk about :old:

Those countries who talk about honor usually have none and those who talk about how religeous they are usually are not :)

My next door neigbour goes to church every sunday and stomps home after he is saved, nasty old sod he is, he has a little square tache as well:eek:

i have noticed Americans view the Japanese far worse than the Germans why is this?
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« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2010, 09:13:38 AM »
i have noticed Americans view the Japanese far worse than the Germans why is this?

I think this comes from the savagery of those fights and the public relations campaigns of the time. They were very brutal and total fights. No quarter was asked and very little given. The things that went on in China, The Bataan death march, Kamikaze, Banzai charges, "sneak attack" on Pearl Harbor. In the news the Japanese were made to look sub human. A bit of racism thrown in. I dont think the Germans are looked on as any better its just the war againts the Japanese appeared so much different and brutal.
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« Reply #99 on: November 29, 2010, 10:57:25 AM »
its been said people are cruel to their own first before they are cruel to others :old:

japanese game shows are rather cruel and Germans wearing leather shorts is odd as well :old:
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« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2010, 11:44:39 AM »
in referance to German technical prowess PIPZ they lost the war all their technological secrets were all to see The Allies technological secrects were kept intact, Whittle invented the JET engine he was English :x

Lucky the European war ended when it did or it could have been Berlin, Nagasaki and Hiroshima :old:

Allies technological prowess = The Atom bomb and intact honor :old:
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« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2010, 12:27:45 PM »
Zach I am not sure but you may missunderstand me. You asked why many Amercians feel the Japanese were worse than the Germans. From talking with people over the years I gave you the best answere I can. Wether these reason are rite or wrong I am not debating it is just what I have picked up from people over the years.


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Re: Nazi
« Reply #102 on: November 29, 2010, 12:35:07 PM »
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Re: Nazi
« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2010, 12:53:06 PM »
SS Soldiers were all volunteers as far as I am aware, and all of those had to fit genetic and physical criteria and undergo intense "Nazification".





Not true, at least the genetic and physical criteria.  Did you know that the SS was one of the most racially/culturally diverse military units of World War II?  The SS was far more racially intergrated than the US Army was, with members ranging from Asian to Muslim.  The irony.

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Re: Nazi
« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2010, 01:01:19 PM »
Zach I am not sure but you may missunderstand me. You asked why many Amercians feel the Japanese were worse than the Germans.

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Pearl Harbor is one reason and racial prejudice (on all sides) and the fact that the Asian concept of war was totally foreign to to our "western sensabilities".

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