Perked Ords with a twist

[columbus]

i was thinking what about having perked ords.

when you launch like most perked items if you fail to land you lose the perks, well if you fail to land your bomber or bombers you will lose the ord points.  In formations ords will be 3 times as much and will lose 1/3 for each bomber you fail to land with.

arguments for against, add your own twist.

[The Fugitive]

HTC has already said they hope to do something along these line. This would be for the fights and GVs too.

[Ack-Ack]

I'm all in favor for a perk ordnance system but I'd rather have it based on historical usage rather than using it as a way to impose some type of penalty.

For example, for the B-25H you could have a perked ordnance package for HVAR rockets or the ammo configuration of 16 HE rounds and 5 AP rounds.

Another example would be in the historical usage.  Load outs that were regularly used would remain non-perked but for load outs that were used but not regularly would then be perked.  

The perk prices would have to be low and it would also make players think about what tools they use to do the job.


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[kvuo75]

i was thinking what about having perked ords.

when you launch like most perked items if you fail to land you lose the perks, well if you fail to land your bomber or bombers you will lose the ord points.  In formations ords will be 3 times as much and will lose 1/3 for each bomber you fail to land with.

arguments for against, add your own twist.

i figure it would discourage suicide lancstukas.

[jolly22]

i dont like the idea of perked ords at all! What if someone comes and kills you while your AFK or vulches on landing or on take off? If you happen to run out of bomber perks, the only way you can get back the points to deliver supps/troops/ or take up a bomber and be a gunship. Not historical at all.

[Strip]

Just because some ordnance is perked does not mean ALL of it will be perked. For instance the Ju-87 would have the 1,800 kilo bomb perked, while the 1,000 might be free.

Strip

[jolly22]

Just because some ordnance is perked does not mean ALL of it will be perked. For instance the Ju-87 would have the 1,800 kilo bomb perked, while the 1,000 might be free.

Strip

oh ok, so the big bombs would be perked? I guess that doable.

[columbus]

i dont like the idea of perked ords at all! What if someone comes and kills you while your AFK or vulches on landing or on take off? If you happen to run out of bomber perks, the only way you can get back the points to deliver supps/troops/ or take up a bomber and be a gunship. Not historical at all.

well its like jets you cant just up a jet you have to earn the points to fly them. i would say there could be a free limit 1/2 load and for more cost you bomber perk points or something to that effect.

[Ack-Ack]

i dont like the idea of perked ords at all! What if someone comes and kills you while your AFK or vulches on landing or on take off? If you happen to run out of bomber perks, the only way you can get back the points to deliver supps/troops/ or take up a bomber and be a gunship. Not historical at all.

The way I would like to see implemented wouldn't be that way at all.

Just because some ordnance is perked does not mean ALL of it will be perked. For instance the Ju-87 would have the 1,800 kilo bomb perked, while the 1,000 might be free.

Strip

What Strip said is more along the lines of the perked ordnance system I would like to see added.


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[jolly22]

well its like jets you cant just up a jet you have to earn the points to fly them. i would say there could be a free limit 1/2 load and for more cost you bomber perk points or something to that effect.

I guess thats true. But it is hard to promote the bomber part of the game to newbies when the bombers are partially perked. I'm TRYING to look at it from all aspects in the game, the fighter pilots will hate to see the lossage of bomber targets, and the 20th bomber missions are gonna absolutley HATE it. I see the only people liking this idea are the gv guys.

[columbus]

I guess thats true. But it is hard to promote the bomber part of the game to newbies when the bombers are partially perked. I'm TRYING to look at it from all aspects in the game, the fighter pilots will hate to see the lossage of bomber targets, and the 20th bomber missions are gonna absolutley HATE it. I see the only people liking this idea are the gv guys.

thing is other then newbies  most of the bomber pilots have lots of perks stored up, those that have been bombing wont effect them unless they are out doing suicide lanc attacks and going through perks like water. newbie will have to take the limited free load til they earn the perks to carry a better load.  and this i will also make people have to fly to and from the fields to land to keep the perks.  under my system prepose you keep the perks you used on the ords if you land back safely.

[Beefcake]

thing is other then newbies  most of the bomber pilots have lots of perks stored up, those that have been bombing wont effect them unless they are out doing suicide lanc attacks and going through perks like water. newbie will have to take the limited free load til they earn the perks to carry a better load.  and this i will also make people have to fly to and from the fields to land to keep the perks.  under my system prepose you keep the perks you used on the ords if you land back safely.

So all bombers would become perk aircraft then? Man this is going to really suck when I fly my B25Cs in the MA because I almost NEVER survive to land. Instead of being a perk generator it'll be a perk black hole. So I'm going to lose perks when I take off in an SBD and get killed by the CV ack while trying to dive bomb it? I'm going to lose perks when my Boston 3 gets torn to shreds as I try to bomb a base that's contested? I'm going to lose perks when my Kate gets slaughtered while I try to torpedo a town? Yeah....I think you need to think this one through a bit more.

[columbus]

if its a simple load  no perks would assess ,  if you upped the JU-87 and got the big 1800kg then that would be perked. if you took the normal load out then no it would be.  if you carried more then say 2 bombs and the plane is capable of 3-4  then you would put perk on the extra 1-2. the A-20 4 bombs no perks 8 bombs the extra 4 bombs would carry some perkage. etc. if you land it then your perks are returned. the bombers that arent perked wouldnt cost you and perkage only the load on them.  you'd be able to still carry bombs for free put to maximize your load you'd have to throw some perks in the mix. the cookie on the mossi and lanc would imho be perked.  and x3 in a formation.   

[dirtdart]

Henschel guided bomb.... worthy of a perk. A 1800kg, given the probability of landing that sortie is probably low. If the were special munition perhaps.  Otherwise...no.