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Offline VonMessa

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2010, 03:01:57 PM »
Everyone in 262's?

I love it  :x

I mean seriously, how effective do you think most players ARE in a 262 anyway?    :devil
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2010, 03:06:54 PM »
+10 to unperking all planes.

-1  to Grizz's (and other BB elitist) consistently condescending attitude towards corky's idea, any idea he/they don't like and his/their constant reference to unexperienced/unskilled game participants as "tards".

With the perk system as it stands it gives the skilled pilots a huge advantage because they easily can gain perkies to fly whatever perk plane they choose....leaving the unskilled at a large disadvantage not just due to lack of skill but also due to lack of comparable equipment.  Also, a big assumption made by the regular BB lords is that everyone will eventually, with enough practice, reach their skill level......that viewpoint is simply not true.

Unperking all planes would in the short term cause the MA to be filled with jets.....however that would quickly stabilize with many fewer jet sorties once the newness wore off (once people figure out there not as easy to fly or uber as they might think).  

The one thing great about this game, and the reason many are still here, is the variety of vehicles/planes one can experience.  I just don't see how allowing everyone on all sides free access to all planes would be unbalancing......as it is now with the elites able to get the best planes, that is more unbalancing I believe.

If the goal is to gain and retain new players, handicapping their choice of equipment when it would be most beneficial seems odd to me.

 If an equipment limiting system is necessary it would make more sense to limit the most skilled players to the worst equipment....maybe a reverse perky system is in order if there must be a system.

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2010, 03:08:38 PM »
Tongue-in-cheek has been lost in translation methinks...
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2010, 04:52:02 PM »
I'm not sold.  Mainly because of the fact that some of us have perks to spend, what would we spend them on?  Solution- nooks.  Not just nukes for bombers, but nukes for tempests as well.  I think this might help eliminate hordes as you don't need as much ord, but it will maintain the need to kill incoming nme aircraft.  For balancing reasons, the fallout may kill troops at random.  However, maybe c47 pilots could purchase radiation suits?
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2010, 04:57:33 PM »
I'm not sold.  Mainly because of the fact that some of us have perks to spend, what would we spend them on?  Solution- nooks.  Not just nukes for bombers, but nukes for tempests as well.  I think this might help eliminate hordes as you don't need as much ord, but it will maintain the need to kill incoming nme aircraft.  For balancing reasons, the fallout may kill troops at random.  However, maybe c47 pilots could purchase radiation suits?

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2010, 05:14:55 PM »

 If an equipment limiting system is necessary it would make more sense to limit the most skilled players to the worst equipment....maybe a reverse perky system is in order if there must be a system.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Tax the rich and give to the poor! What a great idea.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2010, 05:25:44 PM »
+10 to unperking all planes.


If the goal is to gain and retain new players, handicapping their choice of equipment when it would be most beneficial seems odd to me.

What are we saying here, you would rather have a game be easy with zero learning curve? How would this keep my attention?

lol 262 hordes would be fun for awhile but seriously. Some of the older members enjoy flying high eny planes into fights also. Not all are 262 dweebs. :rolleyes:  I find it much more interesting flying a p40 into a furball  and seeing how long I last. But hey I earned the perks so I'll do what I want mmkay. :aok
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2010, 05:30:11 PM »
Yes! Yes! Yes! Tax the rich and give to the poor! What a great idea.  :rolleyes:

Edit:  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe there could be a perks donation center for folks instead.  Those of us who don't fly jets or perk rides could give up our perks.  Keep in mind this is about trying to help the new folks feel some success sooner.  If things are too difficult, they tend to want to give up.  We don't want to lose the player base.

New folks could apply to HTC for a certain amount of free perks that were donated.  Think of it as similar to a "Toys for Tots" campaign.
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2010, 05:35:16 PM »
What are we saying here, you would rather have a game be easy with zero learning curve? How would this keep my attention?

You've got to think of the bigger picture here.  This is about long term growth of the game, not just pleasing a few folks who've stuck with it long enough to work their way up the learning curve.  Folks are leaving in droves because it's gotten too hard.  They want to fly with their buddies.  They want to be able to see progress in taking bases and resetting maps, and they want to fly what they want to fly.

For the sake of more paying customers we need to listen to these folks or the game will die.

The old timers need to get with the trend or go to the DA.
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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM »
New folks could apply to HTC for a certain amount of free perks that were donated.  Think of it as similar to a "Toys for Tots" campaign.

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2010, 05:43:31 PM »
because it's gotten too hard.

What is really so hard in this game?

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2010, 05:45:11 PM »
What is really so hard in this game?

Shooting me down, you ought to know that by now.

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2010, 05:48:08 PM »
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+10 to unperking all planes.
If the goal is to gain and retain new players, handicapping their choice of equipment when it would be most beneficial seems odd to me.
What are we saying here, you would rather have a game be easy with zero learning curve? How would this keep my attention?

lol 262 hordes would be fun for awhile but seriously. Some of the older members enjoy flying high eny into fights also. Not all are 262 dweebs. :rolleyes:  I find it much more interesting flying a p40 into a furball  and seeing how long I last. But hey I earned the perks so I'll do what I want mmkay. :aok

How would unperking all planes reduce the learning curve to zero?

I don't believe there would be hordes of 262's for more than a couple of weeks till the new system settled in......I would still fly a wide variety of planes just as I do now...

Simply unperking all planes would not restrict you from flying any plane you want.  You could still fly your p40 into a furball.

You who are using the derogatory smiley faces are proving my point about the BB elitism.

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2010, 05:48:15 PM »
With the perk system as it stands it gives the skilled pilots a huge advantage because they easily can gain perkies to fly whatever perk plane they choose....leaving the unskilled at a large disadvantage not just due to lack of skill but also due to lack of comparable equipment.  Also, a big assumption made by the regular BB lords is that everyone will eventually, with enough practice, reach their skill level......that viewpoint is simply not true.

Unperking all planes would in the short term cause the MA to be filled with jets.....however that would quickly stabilize with many fewer jet sorties once the newness wore off (once people figure out there not as easy to fly or uber as they might think).

If you want virtual communism, fine, but be aware you'll get to fly commie planes only. Like FOREVER!

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Re: Unperk everything in Latewar
« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2010, 05:50:44 PM »
Shooting me down, you ought to know that by now.

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