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Offline LCADolby

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 02:44:14 PM »
Pretty sweet, 190 is a tank with wings.
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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2010, 06:30:04 PM »
Now there is a living example of A5, HTC can rectify now the stall characteristics and turn radius data of our carton plane.


Doesn't work that way... It's rebuilt. Does it have pilot armor? Guns? Ammo? Armor on the ammo bays? Armor on the oil ring? What engine does it have? Is it even remotely similar to the original?

Even IF it could be ballasted somehow to represent the real aircraft weights, and IF that ballast was all in the correct spots so as to simulate historical center of gravity, it would never be run at war emergency power for flight testing when (assuming it has the real engine restored) there are few spare parts and the thing is so rare it must stay safe for the rest of its life.

It will fly, for sure... But I doubt it'll ever reach historic war-time performance numbers because it will either be underpowered, overpowered (if they use a newer engine to replace the old and it has more power) or seriously underweight.

Too many variables, and I doubt that Paul Allen wants to go through all that effort just to appease nerdy (yes! Nerdy! I said it! I'm in that group too!) flight sim cartoon jockeys.

The man's a multi billionaire probably. He flies WW2 aircraft FOR FUN. Doubt he cares about the flight sim debates on the modeling of Fw190s and turn radii.

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2010, 06:42:54 PM »
Doesn't work that way... It's rebuilt. Does it have pilot armor? Guns? Ammo? Armor on the ammo bays? Armor on the oil ring? What engine does it have? Is it even remotely similar to the original?

Even IF it could be ballasted somehow to represent the real aircraft weights, and IF that ballast was all in the correct spots so as to simulate historical center of gravity, it would never be run at war emergency power for flight testing when (assuming it has the real engine restored) there are few spare parts and the thing is so rare it must stay safe for the rest of its life.

It will fly, for sure... But I doubt it'll ever reach historic war-time performance numbers because it will either be underpowered, overpowered (if they use a newer engine to replace the old and it has more power) or seriously underweight.

Too many variables, and I doubt that Paul Allen wants to go through all that effort just to appease nerdy (yes! Nerdy! I said it! I'm in that group too!) flight sim cartoon jockeys.

The man's a multi billionaire probably. He flies WW2 aircraft FOR FUN. Doubt he cares about the flight sim debates on the modeling of Fw190s and turn radii.

Have to agree with Krusty on this one.

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2010, 07:19:41 PM »
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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2010, 11:10:11 PM »
Doesn't work that way... It's rebuilt. Does it have pilot armor? Guns? Ammo? Armor on the ammo bays? Armor on the oil ring? What engine does it have? Is it even remotely similar to the original?

Even IF it could be ballasted somehow to represent the real aircraft weights, and IF that ballast was all in the correct spots so as to simulate historical center of gravity, it would never be run at war emergency power for flight testing when (assuming it has the real engine restored) there are few spare parts and the thing is so rare it must stay safe for the rest of its life.

It will fly, for sure... But I doubt it'll ever reach historic war-time performance numbers because it will either be underpowered, overpowered (if they use a newer engine to replace the old and it has more power) or seriously underweight.

Too many variables, and I doubt that Paul Allen wants to go through all that effort just to appease nerdy (yes! Nerdy! I said it! I'm in that group too!) flight sim cartoon jockeys.

The man's a multi billionaire probably. He flies WW2 aircraft FOR FUN. Doubt he cares about the flight sim debates on the modeling of Fw190s and turn radii.

For what it's worth, Allen has made sure to rebuild his birds to factory specs so it would have the guns, armor etc.    Would he send it out to play?  Doubt it. Way too rare.  First real 190 to fly in 60 years.

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2010, 11:12:42 PM »
It is a BMW engine.  The real deal all the way
i would love to hear it do a flyby, just once.    :aok
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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2010, 12:11:54 PM »
what's the U3 designation?

"Fw 190A-5/U3 - fighter-bomber with the ETC 501 bomb rack and without MG FF cannons. After a change of designation this was serially produced as Fw 190F-2. There was also a desert variant with dust filters designated as A-5/U3/tp (F-2tp)."

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2010, 12:16:22 PM »
It always impresses me to see an old piece of equipment brought back to life. Neat stuff :aok



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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2010, 12:53:26 PM »
It always impresses me to see an old piece of equipment brought back to life. Neat stuff :aok



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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2010, 09:02:47 AM »
i would love to hear it do a flyby, just once.    :aok

I'll get to see it at his museum along with the 262 next door   :D
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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2010, 09:20:11 PM »
     That sounds like Mrs Pipz talking  :D 

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2010, 10:58:25 PM »
I'll get to see it at his museum along with the 262 next door   :D
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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2010, 09:00:55 AM »
I'll get to see it at his museum along with the 262 next door   :D


Where is that by the way?  :headscratch:

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Re: For the 190A5 fans. Paul Allen's real 190A5 has flown.
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2010, 09:57:03 AM »
id love to see a 262 on display somewhere.  :)
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