Author Topic: Anybody used Wpcredit? (Read 575 times)

bloom25 · « **on:** February 07, 2001, 12:31:00 PM »

For those of you who don't know what this is go to: www.viahardware.com and look down on the main page to about the middle.

I used this last night on my Asus A7v and set register 64 to 4 way interleaving vs 0 way. I gained 5 fps.

When I went to use Wpcset to make the changes permanent I got an error during bootup and had to go to safe mode and turn off Wpset.

Those of you with VIA boards may want to check into this, but I'm not responsible if you screw something up.

(All you have to do it go into safe mode and turn it off if you do.)

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214thCavalier · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2001, 01:05:00 PM »

Abit KT7 1 Asus A7V 0

KT7 owners just set it in the bios no need for using a 3rd party program to force it.

Sorry but after the cheerleading for the Asus i could not resist

bloom25 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2001, 06:24:00 PM »

Actually I *could* set it in the bios myself. There are other things you can modify with this program as well. (Recharge time, latencies, interleaving, etc. Actually if you know where to look you can change anything about the computer.)

The reason I don't set it in the bios is that forces AGP 4x and other changes. This causes occasional lockups. (The newest beta bios for the A7v allows you to change all these things seperately as well. It's just not stable enough yet for me. Basically I'll tweak to gain performance, but any lockups at all will make me sacrifice performance for reliability.)

Besides, I can GUARANTEE you that my system using an A7v will outperform your KT7 configured identically. It's been proven time and again by numerous sites.

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214thCavalier · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2001, 08:11:00 PM »

Lol OK run 3Dmark 2000 and post your best scores at CPU speed of 1100 mhz.

Very careful choice of words there Bloom

How about if you configure each board to give its maximum performance not configured identically to slow the Abit

Btw its only in fun ignore it completely if you wish i shall not think any less of ya

I am just bored and trawling fer some fun

And Bloom is correct that edit proggy is very good and you can alter loads of stuff, you just gotta find out which values do what.

[This message has been edited by 214thCavalier (edited 02-07-2001).]

Animal · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2001, 11:21:00 PM »

Asus A7V @ 100FSb
Duron @ 1Ghz
256mb PC133 SDRAM
GeForce2 32MB GTS 210/366
5400rpm ATA/66 WD Hard Disk
Windows ME
DirectX 8
Detonator 6.47

Default 3Dmark2000 Test Score:

6730 3DMarks.

I dont think the Abit board can improve on this.

HOWEVER, I'm no ASUS cheerleader, Ive had abit motherboards and loved them.
In fact I shouldve bought the Abit board, cause it has ISA slots and mine dont; so I lost my ISA gamecard and ISA hardware modem.

The RAID on the Abit mobo, I wont use that option for now, so its a moot point.
Its nice that you can set multipliers in the bios with the Abit, but thats not a problem to me.

My system is 100% stable at AGP 4x, the only crashes I get are caused by stupid WinME, I think I will "downgrade" to Win98 this week.

All in all, both motherboards are great, and none has an advantage that should make the other one useless; unless you really NEED isa slots or RAID.. then you go for Abit.

However, for speed and stability I'd choose ASUS always. But thats me. Again, I have >NO< stability problems, even overclocking a 700mhz CPU to 1Ghz.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2001, 03:07:00 AM »

OK 3Dmark 2000 score,

Tbird 850mhz O/C to 1100 mhz
KT7-Raid
256 mb PC 133 Cas 2
Creative GEF2 Ultra
SBLive
etc

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare.shtml?1269245

Btw you cant take this seriously cos we all got different equipment.

LJK Raubvogel · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2001, 03:19:00 AM »

Ok, quick question to all you overclocking wizzes. Here's what I'm running. Would it be worth trying to overclock it, and how high could I safely go?

Athlon 700 (slot A)
Asus K7M mobo
192mb PC100 Ram
Geforce 256 SDR

bloom25 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2001, 07:04:00 PM »

The Slot A Athlons were much harder to overclock. You would have to open up the plastic shell and build a very simple circuit and attach it to the hidden connector in the top right corner. The info is on Tom's Hardware if you are interested. www.tomshardware.com

You could do a minor overclock by changing the FSB above 100Mhz.

214, uh, tell you what, give me an Athlon 1100 and the GeForce2 card and I'll accept your challenge.

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Cavatwork · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2001, 08:35:00 AM »

Lol Bloom if i could afford it i would

bloom25 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2001, 06:22:00 PM »

I was finally able to get Wpset to save the changes without crashing. The results are pretty amazing. SiSoft Sandra showed a 10.5% improvement in Int Alu and a 19.2% improvement in FPU.

I'd say I picked up 2 or 3 fps in Ah as well.

(Note: I'm severely Video card limited with a V770 Ultra card.)

If any of you have an Asus A7v and aren't afraid of a tinkering with it you might want to check this out.

(Abit Kt7 users as well.)

Edit: My memory wouldn't do 4 way, I had to settle for 2 way. Even so, I'd say the above is a pretty nice little gain.

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[This message has been edited by bloom25 (edited 02-09-2001).]

MrSiD · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2001, 07:43:00 AM »

3DMark2000 scores aren't really comparable since its possible to cheat in it. Hint: FSB speed counts for a lot in 3DMark2000.

Another difference comes with memory speed settings etc.. In any case 2 motherboards using the same chipset will have so minor differences in speed that it's ridiculous to even argue about it. Both ASUS and ABIT boards are high-quality and stable platforms for your computer. Abit is just a tiny bit more user friendly IMHO.

bloom25 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2001, 06:52:00 PM »

Yes, but Asus is just a tiny bit faster too.

(j/k)

Actually Friday I updated my bios on this a7v to the brand new 1006 and I got the same memory bench results without using wpcredit. (The whole system was a touch faster as well.) If any of the rest of you A7v users feel inclined to do so, REMEMBER always flash a bios at least 2 times in a row. With 1006 this is critical. You should flash this particular bios until it finishes programing at 3bfff. (The first flash will yield 3ffff.)

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Lephturn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:55:00 AM »

Why?

I've flashed my abit boards before and only had to do it once.

What's going on with the Asus boards? Is the flash not completing on the first try?

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214thCavalier · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2001, 01:43:00 PM »

Wierd i have never had to do repetitive flashes with my Abit boards to get it to work correctly, must be some sort of inferior Asus thing

bloom25 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2001, 07:08:00 PM »

It has nothing to do with the board manufacturer. It has to do with EEPROM technologies themselves. Any Electrical Engineer (

) will tell you that you should always flash an Eprom more than once to make sure you don't have any of the old image still present. On rare occasions some of the old data may not be completely erased and the images will "mix", which may end up resulting in BAD things.

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Author Topic: Anybody used Wpcredit? (Read 575 times)

LJK Raubvogel

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