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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 02:51:47 PM »
Draconian works for me.

1st offence- car is crushed and 1 year in prison + fine

2nd offence- permanent driving ban and 5 years in prison

Nobody puts a gun to their head and makes drinkers get into cars

nah......don't crush it. sell it to help pay for the offenders prison term.
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 03:20:21 PM »
This is a serious message and it really needed to be said. I'm a young driver, and I as well as everyone else needs to be driving defensively this season.  :salute
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 03:35:14 PM »
Why you bringing everybody down Chief?


I only gamble with one thing..... My life..... But I only do it sober. 
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 03:49:31 PM »
oh sh*t at 2:20!

noticed some of you think prison time is the only way to go for offenders, have you considered the type of person they will become after 1 or 5 years in prison? Rather than any attempt at education, let's just throw them into a hostile environment where they will learn to be more violent and then release them back out on society....sounds good to me.

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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 03:49:49 PM »
Why you bringing everybody down Chief?

Not sure how this message brings anyone down, it hopefully will give a person a moment to think when the time comes before they act on an impulse that could effect them for the rest of their lives.


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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 04:00:58 PM »
<------ At the airport drinking   :D  But don't fret, I'm not the Captain.   :aok

Not sure how this message brings anyone down, it hopefully will give a person a moment to think when the time comes before they act on an impulse that could effect them for the rest of their lives.
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 04:03:06 PM »
Your good to go until you get to your destination, you wont be driving when you get feet dry will you? 


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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 04:15:03 PM »
Negative sir........ I may be stupid, but I'm not that stupid!!!   :cheers:

Your good to go until you get to your destination, you wont be driving when you get feet dry will you? 

Plus the flight is 8 hours.......  Would be plenty of time to sober if I had to.   :salute
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2010, 04:42:09 PM »
oh sh*t at 2:20!

noticed some of you think prison time is the only way to go for offenders, have you considered the type of person they will become after 1 or 5 years in prison? Rather than any attempt at education, let's just throw them into a hostile environment where they will learn to be more violent and then release them back out on society....sounds good to me.



well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.

first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison

second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI

third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"

my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........

if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.

prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.

All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.

DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?

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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2010, 04:49:45 PM »
well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.

first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison

second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI

third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"

my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........

if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.

prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.

All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.

DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?

suffer loss first then judge the punishment against the pain.

Very well said Flot......  :salute



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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2010, 12:03:51 AM »
yup thought about it...cant really argue with that.
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2010, 12:10:40 AM »
well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.

first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison

second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI

third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"

my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........

if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.

prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.

All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.

DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?

suffer loss first then judge the punishment against the pain.

i used to be a light drinker.....like light enough to be drunk from 3 to 4 beers........i didn't drive. now that i got my ppl, i don't touch alcohol except on new years eve.
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2010, 12:12:27 AM »
Wow! That was an eye opener.. Thanks for posting this. If it helps one person avoid drinking and driving it would be worth it...


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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2010, 12:16:57 AM »
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Re: Like to Gamble?....
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2010, 12:35:49 AM »
I haven't watched the video. I see enough of the mayhem caused by thoughtless boneheads without seeing video after video.

By far the accident that affected me the most was one where I had to move a child's dead parents out of the way to get to them.

As so many other times before the offender was walking around without a scratch.

Trust me after a call like that all you want to do is go home and hug your child to the point they are begging to be let go.

The thing is I used to do stupid stuff like this. I can't even count the number of times that I don't remember the drive home and sometimes they were over an hour long drives. These took place in my younger days and through the years I realized just how stupid it was and that the least thing I needed to worry about was getting stopped. I realized that I could not live with myself if I killed someone due to my stupidity.

Yes don't drive once you've started drinking. There are so many other ways to get home and always someone willing to help out. If it is a friend that is drunk then save a life yank his keys. Imagine taking a little one's parents away from them just because you were too proud to let someone drive you home.

BTW I think they need to go back to showing graphic movies for the new drivers again. Let them see the disaster they cause when they don't follow the rules.
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