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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 01:01:32 PM »
Umm Pervert, that dogfight episode orginated on the History Channel not YouTube.  But I fixed it for ya .  :D

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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 01:04:03 PM »
Blaaaa, HiTech's a noob!  :bolt:

I'd take Hitechs word over an overly dramatic CGI anecdote any day of the week  :aok hes still a craap spellerr though

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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 01:09:51 PM »
quit brown nosing ya perv  :lol
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 01:16:46 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOuljdWyWI


@0.47 can any1 tell me what the manuever that pony pulls is called? or wether it an actuall "official" combat manuever or just something the pilot pulled at the last minute.


and also, is it possable to pull it off in AH?... :pray
Ive done similar things in a 152 but that isnt on purpose........there is no method to handling the 152s stall madness
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 01:18:06 PM »
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 01:30:26 PM »
Mar, to me that looks like you stalled out, half way down popped flaps and got a lucky shot.

The video is of a 51 flying level, then slightly noses up and at the same time does a 180° turn on its axis, before firing off a short burst while flying backwards then turning the rest of the 180° to fly level again.

Very differant
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 01:32:59 PM »
That was not me, though I could possibly do it. Vid flown and edited by Lepape2. It was very famous for a while, don't know why it isn't now...
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 01:34:11 PM »
My apologies, Most times when people post videos it is of them.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2010, 03:32:02 PM »
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2010, 03:36:33 PM »
Lol, is that post of your normal entrance to the MA? Or is it ment to show the dull silence and uninterest when you talk  :P
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2010, 03:56:40 PM »
 :lol

Anyone nootice that the 262 puts a few 30mm into the 51s wing, nothing!

fix the taters!!!  :noid


As for the op...... I can't comment on a WWI era move "faked" for a television show.  A Mustang might pull that in the vert but not from there. 
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2010, 04:24:42 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOuljdWyWI


@0.47 can any1 tell me what the manuever that pony pulls is called? or wether it an actuall "official" combat manuever or just something the pilot pulled at the last minute.


and also, is it possable to pull it off in AH?... :pray

yea..that move is called a fantasy.
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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2010, 04:31:06 PM »
I have done it in a P38 when the stall was incorrectly modeled in AH.
For those that don't remember or weren't here at the time, the P38 would enter almost uncontrollable flat spins relatively easily. I was fighting someone in a spitfire and after a five minutes of dogging it out he settled firmly on my 6. I pushed rudder hard left, pulled up as quick as I could and entered the flat spin. As I spun around he flew right into my line of fire so I pulled the trigger and tore his wing off. I nosed down, used engine throttles and lost about 2000ft from my original alt from the spin.
I have come close to doing it one other time after the FM was fixed.

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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2010, 04:36:33 PM »
Mar, to me that looks like you stalled out, half way down popped flaps and got a lucky shot.

The video is of a 51 flying level, then slightly noses up and at the same time does a 180° turn on its axis, before firing off a short burst while flying backwards then turning the rest of the 180° to fly level again.

Very differant
Watching the video lepape looks like he practiced using the P47 stall and did similar maneuvers several times. The moment at 4:10 looks as close as I think you can get in AH. I feel that the CGI in "DogFights" was a little exaggerated

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Re: p51 crazy tactic
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2010, 04:37:52 PM »
Correct, as close as is possible in AH. Thats the key here.

It is impossible to do the move shown in Dogfights in AH, but the move that was demonstrated is as close as you can get
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