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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2001, 12:28:00 AM »
Bloom, my AMD 900 TBird / ABit KT7 was a snap to build. I've built both Intel and AMD systems completely from scratch and there was no difference in difficulty between them by my experience. The AMD fired up first try - as did the Intel.

A few points about the ABit motherboards...

They are more friendly for overclocking with finer voltage and clock settings to allow very fine tweaking. All of that is set up in BIOS without having to crack the case whenever you decide to eek it up just a little more.

My ABit also has more slots than the comparable ASUS and I didn't have to pay for the network riser crud, an on-board Winmodem, or an onboard sound chip that I wouldn't use anyway.

I think the ASUS is just ever so slightly faster than the ABit though I'm not sure how they stack with the KX133A chipsets (mine is KX133).

But right now, everything really does point to AMD as the superior performer and way better in price/performance ratio. It isn't much faster than the Intel chips but it is faster nonetheless.

I don't know what Intel was thinking with their price plan other than that people won't try AMD because it is different than Intel. I was tempted to go Intel P3 on this system, but after doing a lot of research and looking at how well the AMDs were regarded, it was a no-brainer. I don't regret it at all and if I were building another system right now, hands-down it would be AMD TBird powered (most likely the 1 gig) and the ABit KT7a m/b.

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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2001, 08:46:00 AM »
As somebody above said...

Don't overlook the RAM.  Trust me on this, buy a good namebrand high performance RAM part like Crucial or Mushkin.  Something known for high performance and quality.  Buying generic no-name RAM will lead to system stability and performance problems in my experience.

Also, I think 256 megs is the magic number right now.  Even a Win2k Pro machine will run great with that much RAM.  512 Meg runs into the law of diminishing returns, and you don't get very much benefit from the extra 256 Megs.  

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2001, 12:05:00 PM »
If you use Auto-Trim go with the Pentium III, if you groom your ride to the Nth Degree go AMD. My favorite Site for AMD and Intel Hi-Performance parts is...  
 http://ocz.safeshopper.com/

Go with the 160 and up FSB tested Ram

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2001, 12:22:00 PM »
Translation:  If you like being ripped off go Intel.    If you like value and the best performance for your dollar go AMD.

AMD systems are not hard to set up and get stable, you just have to install everything in the correct order.  (My system has only locked up 2 times since September. Both of these were due to bugs in IE 5. I've got the think overclocked 227 Mhz as well.)



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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2001, 02:32:00 AM »
RDRAM can best be described as yet another PC product thought up, designed, and created solely by a marketing department with the use of techies anywhere so as to keep costs down.

Its only marginally beaten out in dumbarse ideas department by that backup your Amiga to VHS tape idea someone came out with in the 80s.

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2001, 04:00:00 PM »
Just a note on memory: some motherboards support interleaving. If you have a m/b that does, go for it.

For example, the VP6 can take 4 dimms and supports 2 and 4-way interleaving, so getting 512MB (4x128) or 1 GB (4x256) is still sensible.

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2001, 05:30:00 PM »
I'd say go for a Thunderbird and DDR ram

is much cheaper than RDRAM and faster too.

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2001, 07:44:00 AM »
qts,

You don't need multiple DIMM sticks to support 4 way interleaving.  It's interleaving between the "banks" of SDRAM, not between the sticks.  A single stick of SDRAM 64 Megs or more normally supports 4-way interleaving.
 http://www.rojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/BIOS_Guide/BIOS_Guide_02a.htm#SDRAM%20Bank%20Interleave

The important part is "All SDRAM DIMMs of at least 64MB in size or greater are 4-banked in nature.", so a single 256 meg or dual 128 meg DIMMs will support 4-bank interleaving just fine.

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2001, 11:08:00 AM »
Just a note on performance vs amount of RAM.  I just bumped my RAM up to 256 from 128 and got no increase in FR.

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2001, 07:55:00 AM »
To everyone who replied with suggestions:  thanks  

I've had my new pc for about 5 days now and it is rock solid.  Yes, I'm a weenie and went through Gateway  

AMD 1.1g
256meg RAM
64meg GeForce 2 Ultra

Seti runs in around 8 hours if I'm not touching it; AH runs at 61-71fps with the highest res and 32bit; and so far (fingers crossed) no problems running anything.

Compared to my old PC -- the good ole 200mhPPro with 128meg RAM and 16meg Creative TNT with 15-24 fps in AH...I'm sorta happy.

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