Gloster Meteor

[Bruv119]

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the B29 but your taking my point out of context.   The B29 and Brewster had been asked and pleaded for, for a long time and HTC is going to make it happen.   Regardless of stats and figures and all common logic so the Meteor can be thrown into the same category.

Facts are the B29 will be awesome, the Brewster is awesome and maybe one day the meteor will be too!

[Shifty]

I was going by numbers build, time of services and action.  Why bashing the B-29 already when it has not even been place in the game.  Who knows what the out come will be like.

Going by that we'd need to pull aircraft like the TA-152 and ME-163. The Meteor was credited with 14 V-1 kills as well 46 air to ground kills on the continent. I think the Komet had possibly 7 kills and the TA-152 7-10. The Meteor also served in two versions the Mk I and Mk III, the MK IIIs being the model based in continental Europe. BTW I'm not bashing the B-29 I just mentioned the constant threads asking for it were successful.

[SCTusk]

I have an uncle that flew Meteors after the war (also Vampires and F86's) for the RAF. So from a personal viewpoint, this is one addition that would entice me back into the WW2 arenas, at the moment I'm content to stick with WW1. But it does seem to offer major benefits in terms of 'selling' the game, i.e. ability to advertise along the lines of 'AH - now featuring jet on jet action' considering it only requires the addition of one a/c. Bang for buck it just seems to make good sense.

+1

[olds442]

Would be cool. But ultimately, this is just beating a dead horse.... Again.... And again.... And again.

I'm not against it, but it has been asked for before.

and "beating a dead horse" should be your nickname

[Ruah]

no more jets pls

srsly, if th  russian, japanese and italian planest were complete - great, lts get anothr jet - but considering whats not in gam atm. . .yes, but too soon.

[bj229r]

There simply ARE no planes left that haven't been begged for in a million threads,,,we just need to assign numbers, and bump them occasionally.

<#23!

Bahh, it only flew limited non-comabt sorties in July, 1945!>

[Krusty]

Calling the Meteor a counter to the Me262 is absurd.

You don't need a jet to counter the Me262. You can counter it with almost every plane in the planeset. Allies shot them down with P-47s and P-51s. Bombers probably have more kills of 262s than vice versa in this game.

It's a wallowing pig of a plane. It's ability to pull Gs in a "mushy" stall was nerfed some time back negating most breaking snapshots (the best way to get kills on manuvering fighters while flying a 262 in Aces High, back before the nerf).

It's really a lackluster plane. It needs no "counter" as it's already dogmeat in any category except speed. It has to be at full speed and/or high alt to get away most times anyways. If it turns at all or blows any of its E in any way, a Hurricane Mk.I can easily dispatch it.


It needs no counter.

Now, if you want to request the Meteor for other reasons, feel free. "To counter the Me262" just doesn't cut it, though.

[fbWldcat]

and "beating a dead horse" should be your nickname

 

[olds442]

you use again again and again

[fbWldcat]

It is what it is, my friend.

[spitfreak01]

i don't know...

we already have the me163 and 262 why would be there another jet?

pretty much the same though...

[danny76]

+ 10000 there should be Meteor in game, if only because of it's historical importance, and I would suggest those who marginalise what they accomplished should try telling any of the brave lads that flew them against ground targets and V1's that what they were doing was not combat

[fbWldcat]

i don't know...

we already have the me163 and 262 why would be there another jet?

pretty much the same though...

No it isn't.

"Comparison with the Me 262

The Gloster Meteor entered service just after the Messerschmitt Me 262. In July 1944 the experimental unit Erprobungskommando 262 (Test Command 262) began to fly experimental interceptions of high flying Allied reconnaissance aircraft. On 25 July one of their Me 262s clashed with a RAF Mosquito, which escaped, allowing its crew to report their first encounter with a German jet. The first operational sortie of the Gloster Meteor came two days later, on 27 July.

The Gloster Meteor can claim to be the first jet fighter to enter operational service, while No.616 squadron of the RAF was the first operational jet fighter in the work. The first fully operational Me 262 squadron, Kommando Nowotny, was not formed until September 1944, under the command of the famous ace Walter Nowotny, flying its first operation on 3 October.

The Me 262 was a more capable aircraft than the wartime versions of the Meteor. Its top speed of 540mph was 50mphs faster than even the Derwent IV equipped version of the Meteor III. However by the end of the war the Meteor IV was almost ready, and had the speed to match the German jet. On the plus side the Meteor was much more reliable than the Me 262, which suffered from famously unreliable engines."

Rickard, J (13 February 2008), Gloster Meteor during the Second World War , http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_WWII.html

Different guns, different engines, different speeds, different abilities. you just can't compare the two by saying they are both jets from WWII.

BTW, the ME163 is a ROCKET. That is all.

[SmokinLoon]

IMO... there are a number of aircraft that we have, that are not needed, and a lot of resources have been wasted on them.  The AH realm is missing some very major players: the He111, Pe-2, D520, Ki45, Ki-43, etc etc, and a whole host of SIMPLE gv's (M3, SdKfx 251, and M4x variants).

Adding in a jet, regardless of which one, is further wasting resources, IMO.

[Lusche]

IMO... there are a number of aircraft that we have, that are not needed, and a lot of resources have been wasted on them.  The AH realm is missing some very major players: the He111, Pe-2, D520, Ki45, Ki-43, etc etc, and a whole host of SIMPLE gv's (M3, SdKfx 251, and M4x variants).

Adding in a jet, regardless of which one, is further wasting resources, IMO.

I'm curious: Which planes do we have that "are not needed"?