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Offline BaldEagl

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2010, 08:22:57 AM »
Holmes, being from England, was probably referring to THEM only having a dozen ships.

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2010, 03:27:36 PM »
I live in Connecticut and we're fortunate to have the American Airpower Museum (www.americanairpowermuseum.co m) just a ferry ride away on Long Island. All warbirds are in flying condition including a Corsair, P-40, P-47, Texan, TBM Avenger and Waco Biplane. They've also had planes fly in from other areas such as a C-47, B-25, B-17 and P-51D Mustang. Last summer they celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britian in which a Lancaster and Spit IX flew in from other states. The Spit was owned by Tom Duffy. You can check it out on his website. By far the most beautiful of all the warbirds.
Also last summer at the Sikorsky Memorial Airport we had "Corsairs Over Connecticut" in which 5 different Corsairs flew in from other states, flew in formation and performed maneuvers. We also have The Collings Foundation come in once a year with their B-25 and B-17. For $400 you can take a flight in either plane.
In Hartford, CT there is a museum which houses a P-47, a Corsair, a B-25 and a B-29 Superfortress. The planes do not fly but you can sit in the cockpits of the Corsair and P-47 and work the stick and rudder pedals like a giddy ten year old.
And in Washington DC there are 2 huge museums which house every plane imaginable. All are restored in mint condition including a 109, 190, Zero, NIKI, Corsair, Spitfire, Hurricane, Hellcat, Wildcat and many more I can't remember. They also have many WWI planes as well. Great place to take the family.


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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2010, 12:08:18 AM »
Wow, you know how to hit a guy where it hurts.

That was a tragedy of epic proportions. I've got a book about the Enterprise, and it has some pictures of her being chopped up. Just awful.

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2010, 01:28:19 AM »
I won't scan the photos of the Pearl Harbor BBs getting chopped up.  Sure wish they'd have preserved at least one of them.  Can you imagine walking the decks of the West Virginia sitting at her berth right in front of the Arizona?  What a memorial/Museum that could have been.
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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2010, 03:13:28 AM »
I just hope they dont scrap the U.S.S. cobia anytime soon! i actually got to sleep on one of the torpedo's at my visit to the museum for a school field trip  :D
It is an amazing WW2 submarine that killed 2 U-Boats and sunk at least 7 battleships/destroyers  :eek: its an amazing boat and i dont wanna see it die  :salute

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2010, 02:11:46 PM »
I just hope they dont scrap the U.S.S. cobia anytime soon! i actually got to sleep on one of the torpedo's at my visit to the museum for a school field trip  :D
It is an amazing WW2 submarine that killed 2 U-Boats and sunk at least 7 battleships/destroyers  :eek: its an amazing boat and i dont wanna see it die  :salute

you got to sleep in a TORPEDO? that cant be safe at all...

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2010, 02:29:28 PM »
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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2011, 03:03:11 PM »
Last July (2010) I was at a C-47 Fly-in in Rockfalls, IL.

had 14 C-47s and DC-3, and I think one DC-2! all at one time. Not as sexy as the fighter types, but still raises the hair on you neck when they buzz over at tree level!

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2011, 10:27:12 PM »
Black 6 is th only origional 109 flying, the others are reconstructed from various parts - I think a total of 1 F (black 6) and 2 Gs (reconstructed from various parts - but close to origional), recently a reconstructed near completly origional 190 A5 flew. . . And I think th French have on of the origional Yak-3s from the NN squad in a museum - but its not in flying condition.

These are the only 3 plane  types I really follow - and my information is spotty at best.

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2011, 11:19:45 PM »
While I think more aircraft should have been saved from WW2 (especially the Jugs), it does say something good about your culture when you end a war victorious and then disarm yourself by recycling your weapons into rebuilding materials. Would it be great to still have the original Big E as a museum?  Yes.  But I think it gives us far more to be able to say, we literally beat our swords into plowshares.  We didn't fight because we loved war and killing, we fought to end your propensity for war and killing.
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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2011, 02:07:44 AM »
While I think more aircraft should have been saved from WW2 (especially the Jugs), it does say something good about your culture when you end a war victorious and then disarm yourself by recycling your weapons into rebuilding materials. Would it be great to still have the original Big E as a museum?  Yes.  But I think it gives us far more to be able to say, we literally beat our swords into plowshares.  We didn't fight because we loved war and killing, we fought to end your propensity for war and killing.


Well using the original Enterprise as an example doesn't actually work, since some of her portals are currently installed in her successor. CV 6 wasn't scrapped in an effort to beat swords into plowshares, she was scrapped because she was obsolete.


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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2011, 09:45:10 AM »
I won't scan the photos of the Pearl Harbor BBs getting chopped up.  Sure wish they'd have preserved at least one of them.  Can you imagine walking the decks of the West Virginia sitting at her berth right in front of the Arizona?  What a memorial/Museum that could have been.

Used to take a small boat over to Ford island every morning. Let me tell ya, if you don't get a shiver each time you pass those mourings theres something wrong with you.

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2011, 12:36:08 PM »
I won't scan the photos of the Pearl Harbor BBs getting chopped up.  Sure wish they'd have preserved at least one of them.  Can you imagine walking the decks of the West Virginia sitting at her berth right in front of the Arizona?  What a memorial/Museum that could have been.

There is one WW1 BB still around though > USS Texas commissioned: 12 March 1914

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2011, 08:09:01 PM »
Actually they had about a dozen B-17 at the Yankee Air Museum show here in Michigan this year. They have a B25H "Yankee Warrior", a B17G "Yankee Lady", and a C-47D "Yankee Doodle Dandy" which they give rides in and tour the show circuits.   :salute

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Re: how many planes are still left?
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2011, 09:25:44 PM »
Heres the list from the Tillamook Air Museum in Oregon:  http://www.tillamookair.com/html/air_craft_list.html
Its in the surviving Blimp Hangar of a pair that is in itself worth a visit.
and heres the list for Evergreen Air Museum also in Oregon, Home of the Spruce Goose:
http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/#/aircraft-exhibits/military-aircraft
They have a flying ME-262 reproduction.
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