Nothing to see here, move along

[Sonicblu]

But the reverse is true so the problem kinda remains

Yes but that would mean no man made global warming! So how we solve the problem would change.

One more thing scientific thermometers are only calibrated to .1 plus or minus % error reading. That means there's no way you can accurately test  a 1/4 degree  overall temp change accurately. A .1 plus or minus error is   almost a 1/4 degree temp differential. 

[MrRiplEy[H]]

what problem?

The problem that we are having record amounts of snow second year in a row now, not to mention -25c temperatures in August (usually it hovers around 0 to 5c. And that might have something to do with gulf stream - or might not.

[RTHolmes]

I have a problem with the science,

Claim 1. Average water temp has risen 1/4 a degree. By hotter atmosphere.

bizarre claim. where exactly did you read that the rise in ocean temps is solely due to a rise in air temp?

One more thing scientific thermometers are only calibrated to .1 plus or minus % error reading. That means there's no way you can accurately test  a 1/4 degree  overall temp change accurately. A .1 plus or minus error is   almost a 1/4 degree temp differential.

this is just nonsense.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

bizarre claim. where exactly did you read that the rise in ocean temps is solely due to a rise in air temp?

Yep green house gases reflect sunlight back to ocean and lead to temperature rise.

Having said that we're having record amount of cold and I want global warming NOW!

[CAP1]

The problem that we are having record amounts of snow second year in a row now, not to mention -25c temperatures in August (usually it hovers around 0 to 5c. And that might have something to do with gulf stream - or might not.

and how long ago was the last time it was like this where you're talking about?

[CAP1]

Yep green house gases reflect sunlight back to ocean and lead to temperature rise.

Having said that we're having record amount of cold and I want global warming NOW!

something transparent reflects sunlight?

[RTHolmes]

yes

[MrRiplEy[H]]

and how long ago was the last time it was like this where you're talking about?

AFAIK highest amount of snow in recorded history in Helsinki area and temperatures were this low (at that time of the year) last about 100 years ago. Luckily the rest of the year didn't go on record cold since during winter war temperatures hung at -30 to -40. It was so cold that your pee became a frozen stick pointing in an arch from snow. From body temperature to frozen while in free fall from your genitals.. yikes!

[CAP1]

so then this has happened before. this would point towards a cycling of sorts.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

so then this has happened before. this would point towards a cycling of sorts.

The trend is hotter summers and colder winters. Don't mind summers, winters suck.

[CAP1]

that's the trend now. the previous trend was cooler summers, and milder winters.

and i agree.......i'll take the summer any day......hate the cold.