Will maps EVER change

[1DOGFITE]

You guys asked for all this crap. Now it's time to pay the fiddler. Everybody crys and moans,..... HTC changes stuff around to give the customers what they want and now we don't like it. Imagine that.  

Becareful of what ya ask for. You just might get it.  

Well, from what I have heard, nobody likes ENY.  Do ya think that will ever change?  I seriously doubt it, no matter how much you whine and cry about it.

[shiv]

Thought the persistent maps might lead to complaints.  Don't mind them myself but maybe to keep things fresh a rotation is in order after, I don't know, two weeks?

That would surely generate complaints too but if a map isn't won in two weeks then you can argue that you missed your chance, here comes a new map.

[DrBone1]

Though the persistent maps might lead to complaints.  Don't mind them myself but maybe to keep things fresh a rotation is in order after, I don't know, two weeks?

That would surely generate complaints too but if a map isn't won in two weeks then you can argue that you missed your chance, here comes a new map.

[HawkerMKII]

I am not talking about NEW maps. I understand it take ALOT of time to make one, I have tried . Just want to know if we get differant maps with tour reset, very simple question?

[Greebo]

Just because you hear more complaints about a thing than praise doesn't necessarily mean its unpopular, as people are a lot more likely to complain about something they don't like than praise something they do. If HTC went back to the old arena system I expect the complaints about that change would outweigh the praise too.

Personally I like the new setup. Its now easier to find a fight, since the few players online during early evening (GMT) are no longer being split into two arenas. Before the change I rarely bothered to log in before 10-11pm.

I'd say change the off peak map once a week to coincide with Titanic Tuesday.

[Bruv119]

Just because you hear more complaints about a thing than praise doesn't necessarily mean its unpopular, as people are a lot more likely to complain about something they don't like than praise something they do. If HTC went back to the old arena system I expect the complaints about that change would outweigh the praise too.

Personally I like the new setup. Its now easier to find a fight, since the few players online during early evening (GMT) are no longer being split into two arenas. Before the change I rarely bothered to log in before 10-11pm.

I'd say change the off peak map once a week to coincide with Titanic Tuesday.

here here,

for the first time in years the few can fly as the many (oops I mean a squadron)   

[Shuffler]

Note that this is not much of a  "we don't have enough maps" topic, but more about a lack of map rotation . This is nothing we can simply "fix" ourselves.

With the simple capture system now.... maps rotate more often. At least they seem to be rotating more.

[BiPoLaR]

With the simple capture system now.... maps rotate more often. At least they seem to be rotating more.

You're just more drunk than usual 

[Crash Orange]

You guys asked for all this crap.

"You guys"? "You" who? Lusche asked for it, how many others did? How many European players are on even at their peak hours?

HTC created a big mess for the majority of players, in order to fix a problem for a tiny number pf players, even though a larger number of players face the same problem (idiotic caps that won't let you in the arena where everyone is playing) at a different time of day and get no sympathy for it.

Of course, the simplest and best solution for everyone - leave the arena system the way it used to be and get rid of the idiotic caps that 90% of the paying customer base despises - never gets tried for so much as a week.

[Rino]

      Wonder where some of these "statistics" come from..90% huh?

[Lusche]

"You guys"? "You" who? Lusche asked for it, how many others did? How many European players are on even at their peak hours?

HTC created a big mess for the majority of players, in order to fix a problem for a tiny number pf players, even though a larger number of players face the same problem (idiotic caps that won't let you in the arena where everyone is playing) at a different time of day and get no sympathy for it.

Of course, the simplest and best solution for everyone - leave the arena system the way it used to be and get rid of the idiotic caps that 90% of the paying customer base despises - never gets tried for so much as a week.

Many players asked for a change or adjustment. I was just the one coming up with an idea that was a compromise between "caps have a sever effect on gameplay" and HT's "caps are here to stay".

And you are very wrong with your assessment of which solution had the bigger impact on a larger number of people. Before the change, we were facing increasing downtimes in activity. After caps kicked in, it took 2-4 hours to get action rolling again in LWO & LWB (and we are speaking of about 100-200 players, btw)  This downtime has been reduced to about 15-30 minutes. In terms of activity and combat opportunity, the new system is much less severe than the old one.

[CptTrips]

"caps are here to stay".

Caps where implemented to increase subscriptions?
Have subscriptions increased since their inclusion?

Wab

[5PointOh]

I really don't mind the new system, but here's my thought on what could make it a tad better.

 Just lock Orange in the off hours, once 4pm CST arrives open it back up and keep the off hours arena as the blue arena.  At this point the standard arena caps would go back in place. 

[Lusche]

Just lock Orange in the off hours, once 4pm CST arrives open it back up and keep the off hours arena as the blue arena.  At this point the standard arena caps would go back in place.  

Which would result in the same situation we had before. One locked arena with a lot of players in it, but locked. And another one that's empty.  We would have exactly the same problem we had before. No, it would be even worse, as you would see

LWO 20/150
LWB 250/100


 It's the very reason why I came up with the save & boot idea. If you do not get the ppl out of offpeak/blue arena, it will take a long time for Orange to get to acceptable numbers - and offpeak/blue will experience a lot of battles simply dying.

[Lusche]

Caps where implemented to increase subscriptions?
Have subscriptions increased since their inclusion?

Wab

Hitech's words: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,264069.msg3329554/topicseen.html#msg3329554

Simple not refutable facts.

1. Before arena split AH was not longer growing.

2. After arena split AH started growing fast than it ever had.

Now there really is only 1 reason for this, more people are having fun, and thus subscribe.