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Offline Mirage

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A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« on: January 01, 2011, 04:10:48 PM »
Being newer, I have been avoiding posting a wish just because I didn't want to come across as an annoying person who makes a bunch of demands for change while being new to the game, but I have been messing around with the WGr-21 rockets on the Fw-190's and also doing some research about them on the internet, I have taken down a couple of offline drones with them and am thinking about taking them to the MA, but in my research on the internet I found that the tubes which the rockets sat in were jetisonable after the rocket was fired. so my proposal is that the WGr-21's could function like the RATO units for the Ar-234b, as once the rockets have been fired and explode, the tubes will fall away?

what are your guys opinions on this?
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2011, 04:38:27 PM »
if its historically accurate then im all for it. if not then... well yeah :lol
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2011, 04:41:47 PM »
well I am pretty sure they did not drop away automaticaly in real life, but I was just thinking to do it like the RATO units so once you fired the rockets you dont have to select the rocket tube on the ordinance counter to drop it
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2011, 04:42:12 PM »
They could be jettisoned, but I'm not sure how often a flight would actually have to drop them. Just as with external fuel tanks, they were precision pieces of equipment, that did cost the war effort to replace.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that the RATO units jetisson automagically because they are fitted with parachutes that ensure a safe descent to a waiting ground crew below. Neither the rocket tues, nor external fuel tanks had these 'chutes.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2011, 04:45:28 PM »
So it was one of those things that could be dropped, but was frowned uppon if you did drop them?
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 04:49:28 PM »
Correct. Of course, if a flight HAD to drop the option was available. 2 rocket tubes are a bit more replaceable than a high-performance plane and well-trained pilot.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 05:26:34 PM »
Ah I see now so would it still be viable to have this as an option in ah?
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 05:45:11 PM »
While it may not have been a regular event in real life, it would be a nice touch.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 06:23:31 PM »
Boy, I've been reading this board waaay too long.

Searched for "jettisonable"

Found buried in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,70707.0.html

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We try look into any VALID discussion of flight modling that could be incorect, and have responded to some like the rocket pod jetison before.

That question is a choice on our part to make them not jetisonable, because all players would just jetison after use, and that is not how they were used. The jetison was for emergancy only, and not disposable. There for in an effort to be more realistic we chose not to have them jetisonable. And now once again just this statment will lead to another heated argument.

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That would be a "no" from the developer.

You can tell it's him by the typos.  :D

Search is very effective if you know what you are looking for.  Like I said, waaay too much time reading here....

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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 06:33:11 PM »
Ah well I guess that settles that   :)


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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 07:03:26 PM »
Boy, I've been reading this board waaay too long.

Searched for "jettisonable"

Found buried in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,70707.0.html

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That would be a "no" from the developer.

You can tell it's him by the typos.  :D

Search is very effective if you know what you are looking for.  Like I said, waaay too much time reading here....

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Nice find, Wrongway.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 08:39:46 PM »
but if the drop tanks were not "dropped" unless needed also then why are we allowed to do so?  Sounds like more pilots returned with them then actually dropping them.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2011, 08:43:53 PM »
but if the drop tanks were not "dropped" unless needed also then why are we allowed to do so?  Sounds like more pilots returned with them then actually dropping them.

I'd assume it was standard procedure for a P-51 flight on escort duty to drop their tanks just prior to engaging, later in the war.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2011, 09:35:11 PM »
but if the drop tanks were not "dropped" unless needed also then why are we allowed to do so?  Sounds like more pilots returned with them then actually dropping them.

What is this from?

AFAIK drop tanks were dropped when empty or when the enemy was sighted, whichever came first.

There were no "explosive bolts" required to drop drop tanks.  Besides, look at the name, drop tanks.
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Re: A pruposed change to the WGr-21
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2011, 12:01:06 AM »
They could be jettisoned, but I'm not sure how often a flight would actually have to drop them. Just as with external fuel tanks, they were precision pieces of equipment, that did cost the war effort to replace.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that the RATO units jetisson automagically because they are fitted with parachutes that ensure a safe descent to a waiting ground crew below. Neither the rocket tues, nor external fuel tanks had these 'chutes.


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