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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2011, 03:55:17 PM »
Come on ... a building in the 30s was weaker than the same build in the 40s ?  :huh

Buildings get stronger as they get older ? :huh
its not really an argument of how strong the buildings are, just how much reinforced they are (represented by there hardness scale).

at the begining of the war, buildings werent as heavily fortified because not every country knew what the other was truly capable of, as bomb raids, etc commenced through the war buildings were more heavily fortified to try to withstand the massive bombloads that later bombers could carry.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2011, 04:27:30 PM »
its not really an argument of how strong the buildings are, just how much reinforced they are (represented by there hardness scale).

at the begining of the war, buildings werent as heavily fortified because not every country knew what the other was truly capable of, as bomb raids, etc commenced through the war buildings were more heavily fortified to try to withstand the massive bombloads that later bombers could carry.

Um, nop, houses were not fortified.  However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings.  The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight.  Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses?  Replace the ack with 303 guns also?  I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads  :old:
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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2011, 04:35:34 PM »
Um, nop, houses were not fortified.  However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings.  The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight.  Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses?  Replace the ack with 303 guns also?  I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads  :old:
your missing what i mean, and your sarcasm is stale.

when i say buildings, im not JUST talking about the town, i mean the field buildings as well, fh,bh,vh, etc.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2011, 04:52:03 PM »
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?  

By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game.  Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok  

Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out

for example:

- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad  

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 06:44:00 PM »
You foolish man...  :uhoh  Even in your first sentence therein lies history misleading you... Throughout all parts of Europe, from the start of the war, some civilian occupations granted the common folk certain privileges;  one such being that masons, civil engineers and even one case of an architect, destroying his home when he poured concrete down into the open space between interior and exterior walls.  ......He told us he wanted to add some protection for his family.......  But I'm not talking about making town buildings softer, personally........
Um, nop, houses were not fortified.  However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings.  The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight.  Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses?  Replace the ack with 303 guns also?  I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads  :old:

Like I've said before...... :old:
I should point out that I do not think 250lb objects should be changed, just hangers.  A 250gp bomb IRL, may or may not have taken down a whole building in a town, so no need to make the buildings any weaker. 

How that (softer hangers) plays into the EW gameplay I am unsure, I do not visit all that often but it certainly seems "fair."

You smart man!  (shhh, leave it at that!)   :aok
i mean the field buildings as well, fh,bh,vh, etc.

This thought has merit!   :salute
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena? 
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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2011, 07:02:41 PM »
our CO hasent been on in over a month

That is because he is playing WoT.


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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2011, 07:18:03 PM »
That is because he is playing WoT.
yea, i figured.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?  

By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game.  Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok  

Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out

for example:

- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad  

Every arena is already a free play arena...for the first two weeks of coming online.  How would making EW permanently "free" help anything...especially if you spam potential subscribers with stupid ads and pleas to pay up.
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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2011, 04:57:10 AM »
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?  

By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game.  Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok  

Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out

for example:

- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad  

only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2011, 05:39:41 AM »
only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2011, 07:16:36 AM »
only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2011, 07:35:16 AM »
You all stay on the same side and "fight" town ack to capture bases.    You couldn't train a puppy.

that town ack is the only ones brave enough to put up a fight against us in there.
why not come into EW and join the war? show us all how inferior you think we are.
unless of course, your used to LW EZ mode.... :rolleyes:

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2011, 07:37:17 AM »
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?  

When I first read this I thought, "Hey, that just might work!"

But then I thought some more.  

First:  Coming from an arena which many players have condemned over the years, I am sensitive when people who don't fly in an arena suggest that it should be changed.  All arenas - EW, MW, AvA, WWI, dueling and training - have fewer players at any given time than the LW arenas.  Why pick EW as the arena to be sacrificed?

Second:  Early war planes are, IMHO, the most difficult to fly well, mainly because they do not have the virtually unlimited engine power and colossal firepower of the late war planes.  We point new players at Spitfires for good reasons; the Spit I, however, does not hold the same advantages for the new player as the later models, nor does any other EW plane (with the IIC being a possible exception).

If we were going to dedicate an existing arena to new players, it seems to me that the logical choice would be the dueling arena or one of the late war arenas.  Creation of a new arena, for new players only, like AW had, has been discussed on these pages several times over the years.  The consensus each time was that it's a bad idea.

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2011, 07:49:19 AM »
You all stay on the same side and "fight" town ack to capture bases.    You couldn't train a puppy.



I assume you are Karaya in game. If so in the past 5 tours in the main arenas you have registered 18 kills total and apparently killed some buildings also. So why are you so concerned about EW and what others are doing?

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Re: The state of EW
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2011, 07:55:07 AM »

I assume you are Karaya in game. If so in the past 5 tours in the main arenas you have registered 18 kills total and apparently killed some buildings also. So why are you so concerned about EW and what others are doing?

Thanks for looking up my scores.   I've been burned out on AH after over 8.5 years of playing it.   But I still pay my $14.95.    Actually, under WMKaraya you'll notice more kills, but then again you're the smart one.   

As for your last question we both know the answer to it, only you're afraid to admit it.   :lol
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