Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan

[moot]

Fraid I can't stay much..  Actually gotta get up in 4 hours for hard hour at the gym then full day of class.  I should know better.

[Guppy35]

Or as you seemed to be saying earlier in this post, because most people don't have the stomach for it.  Also why celeb gossip and political blame game are so popular in the first place.

I read about this speech back when I was in High School in the 70s.  It speaks volumes, even from 1958.  Murrow called it.


http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/commentary/hiddenagenda/murrow.html

Just one paragraph from the linked speech.  Scary how right he was

"And this brings us to the nub of the question. In one sense it rather revolves around the phrase heard frequently along Madison Avenue: The Corporate Image. I am not precisely sure what this phrase means, but I would imagine that it reflects a desire on the part of the corporations who pay the advertising bills to have the public image, or believe that they are not merely bodies with no souls, panting in pursuit of elusive dollars. They would like us to believe that they can distinguish between the public good and the private or corporate gain. So the question is this: Are the big corporations who pay the freight for radio and television programs wise to use that time exclusively for the sale of goods and services? Is it in their own interest and that of the stockholders so to do? The sponsor of an hour's television program is not buying merely the six minutes devoted to commercial message. He is determining, within broad limits, the sum total of the impact of the entire hour. If he always, invariably, reaches for the largest possible audience, then this process of insulation, of escape from reality, will continue to be massively financed, and its apologist will continue to make winsome speeches about giving the public what it wants, or "letting the public decide.""

 

[Penguin]

I read about this speech back when I was in High School in the 70s.  It speaks volumes, even from 1958.  Murrow called it.


http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/commentary/hiddenagenda/murrow.html

Just one paragraph from the linked speech.  Scary how right he was

"And this brings us to the nub of the question. In one sense it rather revolves around the phrase heard frequently along Madison Avenue: The Corporate Image. I am not precisely sure what this phrase means, but I would imagine that it reflects a desire on the part of the corporations who pay the advertising bills to have the public image, or believe that they are not merely bodies with no souls, panting in pursuit of elusive dollars. They would like us to believe that they can distinguish between the public good and the private or corporate gain. So the question is this: Are the big corporations who pay the freight for radio and television programs wise to use that time exclusively for the sale of goods and services? Is it in their own interest and that of the stockholders so to do? The sponsor of an hour's television program is not buying merely the six minutes devoted to commercial message. He is determining, within broad limits, the sum total of the impact of the entire hour. If he always, invariably, reaches for the largest possible audience, then this process of insulation, of escape from reality, will continue to be massively financed, and its apologist will continue to make winsome speeches about giving the public what it wants, or "letting the public decide.""

 

That man is a dreamer, and a visionary, but unfortunately, he just proved that his own idea is impossible.  Being insulated and not having think feels too good to give up (we all fall victim to this, no exceptions).

-Penguin

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[Penguin]

Nice picture! 

-Penguin

[Yenny]

That's a great photo. It really captures the humanity and part of the reality for our combat troops that we rarely see.

Our troops doing many great things out there that would never get the recognition for. For the troops themselves I don't think it really matters. It's good for the folks back at home to see that they are trying to make a different. The problem with some journalist is that you'd never know what they're going to write. I've taken them on mission a few times and I really have to be careful with my wording because a wrong phrase get quoted by them can really put me in a tough spot.

I think it's also a miss and hit for the journalist. The majority of missions, everything goes according to plan and there's really no picture or a good story. Out of 300+ combat missions, I only can count maybe a dozen missions where we had contact. Out of those dozen only 3 missions where my platoon took casualties, and only 1 mission had KIAs. I only took journalist out maybe on 4 missions, so the chances of them getting a pictures of the negative side is quite rare. Most of those pictures would have to come from the soldiers themselves. A lot of it though are some what consider classified, especially of KIA and damage vehicles. That is probably why we don't see a lot of it floating around, at least of the last few years.

[Penguin]

That's a great photo. It really captures the humanity and part of the reality for our combat troops that we rarely see.

What's the other part?    Combat?   

-Penguin

[moot]

Guppy - Pretty sure I've heard of that speech, but haven't ever read it.. Bookmarked it.

[his idea] is impossible. Being insulated and not having think feels too good to give up (we all fall victim to this, no exceptions).

IOW there is no value to working for anything?