Noob wants to know why room limits...

[macleod01]

Doc,
10 minutes is a bit long IMO. As soon as you see you can't get in, quit the game and restart. You may get in. If not, rinse and repeat and within a few minutes you should be flying

[sky25]

Obviously they don't want to fly with you.

wrongway

You cant help yourself can you Wrongway? The guy comes on to ask a simple question, and of course always one has to come up with something like that!

Doc, Just keep logging back on and off until you get in. That is what I do and it usually works quickly. Ignore the BBS & 200 warriors as noted above..

Also like others said. Bring up your clipboard and text buffer and type .sr and the location of your fellow pigs will be shown...

[waystin2]

Obviously they don't want to fly with you.

Come on Wrongway, you know me better than that.  Ask any one of my Pigs what my answer is to a squaddie that can't join us due to caps.  "If you can't get in, then I will come to you."  Doc is a new pilot, and trying to understand the way the system works.  Further it is quite obvious he is not aware of the squad vox capabilities. Lighten up Sir.

 

Way

[Anaxogoras]

Yeah, if he didn't know he could talk to you from the lobby, then that explains away his problem.

[james]

Wrongway, shhhhh.


Doc, welcome to the game. There's an area on the mainpage of the website that has all the commands and directions if you're up for some reading.
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ <---- This link has all the functions of the game and is even good to review every once in a while for someone who has played for for any length of time. Please take some of the responses to questions you might have with a grain of salt. Some people here forget they were new here themselves quite often. Just as it is a game, this is just a bbs yet some take it soooo personal when a question has been asked in the past.   

[grizz441]

It takes about 5 minutes to get into a full arena.  Or, your squad could switch arenas.  Obviously they don't want to fly with you.

Is this really necessary?

[LLogann]

You're a newb....... Not a noob. 

[68ZooM]

Doc no worries if you cant get in we'll come to you, we leave no one behind or out 

[AWwrgwy]

Sarcasm is escaping many.

It must be the toxic environment.

Just another "Oh, woe is me" whine as I see it.

The secret to getting into the full arena is not to log in, see the arena is full and log out but to go to the not full arena and get the caps to increase.

With near parity in the two LW arenas now since the "off hours, kick everyone out" thing, which arena your squad flys in is almost immaterial.

But it's not the fighting, it's all about the chatting.


wrongway

[Babalonian]

The underlined sentence makes you a part of the problem. You are not forced to stay afk, you do so of your own choice. Thus denying somebody else the chance to log into the arena if the cap limit has been met. This is not to say that a few minutes afk is a big deal, but half an hour is too long; especially if you're so concerned with not being able to get into said arena.

I believe he is aware of how unconstructive the dilema is (heck I am too, I know when I AFK for dinner I'm taking up a spot), but this is the common solution many players have found most aplicable to their common problem (and even though I feel bad that I was sitting idle in the arena for 30-60 minutes, hoging someone elses potential active spot, I'm gratious that I can now start imediatley where I left off before dinner - playing AH with my squadies). 

We feel punished for having to wait to get in.  There is no punishment (or reward) to the individual for not sitting idle in the arena for 10-minutes or 10-hours.  We feel rewarded for not disconecting and upon returning being able to imediatley resume whith the previous (or current) mission and comrads we left.

[Babalonian]

Come on Wrongway, you know me better than that.  Ask any one of my Pigs what my answer is to a squaddie that can't join us due to caps.  "If you can't get in, then I will come to you."  Doc is a new pilot, and trying to understand the way the system works.  Further it is quite obvious he is not aware of the squad vox capabilities. Lighten up Sir.

 

Way

It's OK Waystin, just let it go, I've tried explaining this to him and many like-minded people before.  

It's very difficult for one person to convince (or rather, impose) a whole squad to stop what they're all doing and move the whole entire party.  But many people here consider a squad just one or two other individuals, and these are the people we will never be able to convince otherwise because they refuse to accept that their squad is less of a squad than any other here and more like just a couple buds.  It is SOOO much easier to convince one or two individuals to stop and do things your way than it is a large organized and predisposed group of people... just ask any 3 year-old and their parents what happens if one of them attempt to influence the thoughts and decisions of another in the family compared to say a weekend motorcycle riding club and how easy it is for one member to quickly change and influence the thoughts and decisions of all the other members.

[DREDIOCK]

I would venture to guess that there are few people that would expect, or even ask an entire squad to move simply because they cant get into the area everyone else is. I know I never would if I were the odd man out so's to speak.

That being said. Over the last couple of weeks I've had a chance to check out the arenas other then at the times I normally log on at which is usually later in the evening 9-11 PM EST. Based on what I see going on in the arenas anymore. Its safe for me to say that the duel arenas have, at least for now outlived their usefulness and are even counter productive to game play. At least in their current format. And particularly when the large maps are up.

IMO the arenas do not have the kind of numbers right now for the large maps in either arena. But particularly in LW blue.
Yet the small maps are too small for the kind of numbers Orange usually gets.

   Now someone is probably going to happen along showing some numbers. I see numbers too when I log on. More times then not the combined numbers of both arenas barely hit the 400 mark. Sometimes it goes well over yea. But not as a norm. And of those numbers I often find it interesting to see in blue. Say 200. yet I go into the arena and see maybe 3 or 4 small dar bars up. And most of those arent even fighting one another. Which kinda leads me to believe that those that arent doing anything. Are only waiting till they can get into orange. Much like I usually do. Basically the numbers arent representative of what I am experiencing as a player.

 Sometimes I see that in both arenas. Or what numbers I do see up on each side is obvious are hording against bases where nobody is. At which point I often dont even bother staying logged on for long.

Honest to god one night last week I logged on in orange and it was one large circle jerk. Each side attacking the next side in a counter clockwise circle right to left while being attacked on the other end. I mentioned it on 200. Fortunately I found one base where a few friendlies upped and defended. But even that became relatively short lived as the attackers just went somewhere else as soon as it became evident they were going to have to work for their capture.
Eventually I just logged off out of boredom.

Now not to say I haven't left orange and gone to blue in search of a better more active fight. Indeed I have. But that usually happens in blue when the smaller maps are there.

And I know there are some here that prefer the split arenas.

I would therefore suggest that if the arenas are indeed to remain split. Then leave the larger maps exclusively for orange.Or better yet. downsize the larger maps by 20%  And the smaller maps for blue. Which would better represent and serve the numbers that inhabit each.

[Oldman731]

But it's not the fighting, it's all about the chatting.

Seems to be true, doesn't it?

- oldman

[rvflyer]

That being said. Over the last couple of weeks I've had a chance to check out the arenas other then at the times I normally log on at which is usually later in the evening 9-11 PM EST. Based on what I see going on in the arenas anymore. Its safe for me to say that the duel arenas have, at least for now outlived their usefulness and are even counter productive to game play. At least in their current format. And particularly when the large maps are up.

I don't agree, when only one map is up the furballs and hords are terrible. If you try to go to a base where there is not furballing soon there are 15 others there trying to kill the one guy you are having a 1v1 with.
Nothing is more frustrating than a nice 1v1 that has been going on for a while and some jock comes in and takes the kill    when he can see you are right on nmes tail. Not all but some will not even respect you asking
them to stay out. The big TT and OFF hours arena suck and have gone beyond their useful life imo.

[AWwrgwy]

It's OK Waystin, just let it go, I've tried explaining this to him and many like-minded people before.  

It's very difficult for one person to convince (or rather, impose) a whole squad to stop what they're all doing and move the whole entire party.  

Read closer.  Waystin ans the POTW will switch arenas for one squaddie.  Is the OP a Pig?

Now someone is probably going to happen along showing some numbers. I see numbers too when I log on. More times then not the combined numbers of both arenas barely hit the 400 mark. Sometimes it goes well over yea. But not as a norm. And of those numbers I often find it interesting to see in blue. Say 200. yet I go into the arena and see maybe 3 or 4 small dar bars up. And most of those arent even fighting one another. Which kinda leads me to believe that those that arent doing anything. Are only waiting till they can get into orange. Much like I usually do. Basically the numbers arent representative of what I am experiencing as a player.

IIRC, Hitech's "ideal", non toxic, arena is 150-200 players.

His design seems to be working.



wrongway