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Offline ROX

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Re: Pizza
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2011, 02:55:57 PM »
I just use chef boyardee kits. Add some Italian seasons and it's the best pizza you can have.


You, Sir, are wise beyond your years and are on the cusp of being your own home-made pizza chef.   Really.


The GREAT thing about those kits are they are forcing you to take the first steps by using the "kit".  The DOWN side?  The cost.

Last I looked they went from $5.95 to $6.95 depending on the store.  Sometimes higher.

What do they have?  A packet of (basically) self rising flour and a can of pre-made sauce and a packet of parmesean.  You can do the same for FAR cheaper by getting a full bag of self rising flour and a large (29 oz) can of either tomato sauce or crushed tomatoes.  The 29 oz can is MORE than enough to make sauce for two large pizzas with more left over to freeze for next time.  The flour bag is enough to make at least 6 large pizzas if not more.

Sauce:

Emeril’s Tomato Sauce

·   2 tablespoon olive oil
·   1/3 cup chopped yellow onions (I use 1/2 cup)
·   1/2 teaspoon salt
·   1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper (I add more, 28 turns)
·   1 tablespoon minced garlic (I use 3)
·   2 1/2 cups peeled, seeded, and chopped tomatos (OR one 29 oz can of tomato sauce or crushed tomatos)
·   2 tablespoons chopped fresh basil leaves  (or ¼ cup dry basil)
·   3 tablespoon chopped fresh oregano leaves (HEAPING)
·   Pinch cayenne
·   1/2 cup chicken stock

Heat the oil in a large saucepan over high heat. Add the onions, salt, and black pepper and cook, stirring, until the onions are soft, about 2 minutes. Add the garlic and cook, stirring, for 30 seconds. Add tomatoes, basil, oregano, and cayenne, and cook for 1 minute. Add the stock and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer, stirring occasionally, until thickened and fragrant, about 15 minutes.  (Cover and set on "low" until your ready to sauce the pre-heated crust).


Crust:

1 1/2 cup Self-Rising Flour (plus a bit more for dusting)
3/4 cup warm water (You may need more, see directions)
cornmeal (for dusting the pan)
1 T EVOO

In a large bowl, combine the self rising flour and water and mix well. Cover with a warm cloth and place in a warm (85F) area for about 1/2 hour to rise.  If the misture is sticky--add a bit more self rising flour, one heaping big T at a time until the mixture forms a ball and isn't very sticky.  If it's dry and falling apart, add warm water one T at a time until it forms a non-sticky ball.

Dust a nice, flat work area with more flour (to keep it from sticking to the surface).  With a good quality rolling pin, roll the ball out flat--adding more dusting flour to prevent sticking if needed.  Fold over on it self from all sides and repeat.  Repeat until hit has been folded and rolled at LEAST 10 times.  THIS is what gives it that layered taste.

(I am doing this assuming that most people do not have a pizza stone)

Pre-heat oven to 500F.

Take the LARGE pizza pan and gently coat with EVOO with your fingers...then gently dust the greased pan with corn flour.

Roll out the dough again and roll until it is at least 3" larger in diameter than your pan.  GENTLY pull the dough over the pan!  If it breaks, you are in luck, we have "extra" to patch with.  Carefully roll the overlap dough onto the edge of the pan and carefully make the "edge" dough.  If you wanted "stuffed crust"---AT THIS point while you are rolling up the edge crust place half a stick of string cheese in the dough as you start to roll it--you have to do this the entire perimeter of the crust ring.

With your fingers, place a VERY light layer of EVOO onto the middle dough in the pan to thinly coat the dough.  Place the pan with dough crust into the oven for no more than 10 minutes.  Check after 8 minutes...what you are striving for is a dough that has risen slightly more and is turing a light tan and a little very light brown in the middle.  When it is--PULL it from the oven and back to your work space.

Carefully ladle the sauce into the pre-cooked crust.  You are looking for a THIN layer of sauce--no more than a 1/4" inch at the most.  Make sure you get the sauce all the way up to the crust rim edge.

Gently dust the sauce with parmesean cheese.  The parmesean should start to melt a bit as it hits the sauce.

I normally return the pan with sauce and parmesean to the oven for 2 to 4 minutes, but you can skip that if you want.

Cover the sauce with shredded low-moisture mozzarella cheese, the depth is up to you but I wouldn't go more than 1/2".

Here's where you put your toppings on...onions, mushrooms, shrimp, sausage (sorry Meatwad) or whatever.

***Optional:  At this point I add a bit more mozarella to the entire pie, but that's just me.

Return to the oven and bake for 20 to 25 minutes.  Check after 20 minutes.  You are striving for that "perfect" mix of lightly brown cheese to melted but not quite brown cheese  "look"....at that point, yank it from the oven and slice with a pizza cutter immediately and serve.
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2011, 03:51:54 PM »
My second-favorite pizza dough recipie I should really find and post in this forum.  It's a generic make-in-your cuisinart super-fast and super-easy recipie, ideal for making 1-2 pizzas, and perfect for after a busy day where you want something insanely yummy made at home, but as easy and effortless as possible (seriously, the most time consuming parts are waiting a bit for the dough to rise and the oven to preheat (well my oven at home anyways, i got a circa 1960s stove converted for propane up at the family cabin that I'm gonna have to fight with mom over who gets to be burried with it.  perfect for quickly rising doughs in too, the pilot light for the oven keeps the oven that perfect warm-n-cozy condition that yeast loves... they just don't make 'em like they used to.)). 
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2011, 04:17:29 PM »
My second-favorite pizza dough recipie I should really find and post in this forum.  It's a generic make-in-your cuisinart super-fast and super-easy recipie, ideal for making 1-2 pizzas, and perfect for after a busy day where you want something insanely yummy made at home, but as easy and effortless as possible (seriously, the most time consuming parts are waiting a bit for the dough to rise and the oven to preheat (well my oven at home anyways, i got a circa 1960s stove converted for propane up at the family cabin that I'm gonna have to fight with mom over who gets to be burried with it.  perfect for quickly rising doughs in too, the pilot light for the oven keeps the oven that perfect warm-n-cozy condition that yeast loves... they just don't make 'em like they used to.)). 



PLEASE post.... :pray


I have made them in the breadmaker before but those were the plain flour and warm water/active yeast typed of dough.

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Re: Pizza
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2011, 04:29:04 PM »
Pizza Madness in Canon City, CO is the best.

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Re: Pizza
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2011, 05:30:43 PM »
Gonna step in and defend the 'Hut. 

Pan Pepperoni Lover's still rocks. 

Is it the best?  meh.. I don't really have a best.  But, if I were asked what pizza I would want for dinner, that would be it.

In actuality, there is only one pizza place I've found that I wouldn't eat, and it's a local place in Omaha.  ::shudder:: 

But, it does have a loyal following from the natives.

Most pizzas are fine.. a couple are really good.. but I have a hard time remembering names. There are a couple frozen pizza brands I wouldn't pay money for.



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Re: Pizza
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2011, 06:20:50 PM »
I can't stand the so called "Chicago Style" where its all half uncooked dough in the middle and crap like that. Give me a good old monster thin slice from a couple of places around here or let me make my own and its all good.

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I am saddened by the fact that you did not get Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza but something some charlitan was passing off as such.  You may have to chalk that up to location.  I see you are in AL, so you have to take a grain of salt the size of Cleveland if someone local was "attempting" to make Chicago Style Deep Dish and you ended up with someone's kitchen mistake.....example....


I LOVE GYROS!  A true, authentic, Greek (Greek-American) Gyro is the most wonderful dinner on Earth.  Meat with 80% lamb, 20% ground chuck on a vertical spit carved vertically with a sharp knife with fresh, diced tomatos, Greek Olives, and Feta Cheese and fresh home made peta bread with a steaming hot pile of fries and a tall Coke is HEAVEN.  You don't get that in Hot Springs National Park, Arkansas.  The ONLY eatery in town that serves a "gyro" serves a NASTY chunky ground beef mixture (NO LAMB) slathered in Ranch Dressing with 2 or 3 chunks of tomato wrapped in a stale pita as a "gyro".  It's CRAP and it's because of location.  I have to drive a 100 mile round-trip to North Little Rock to the ONLY Greek eatery in the area to get a "decent" Gyro platter.  And that one is only just...OK.

If you were subjected to a CRAP CSDD pizza it's because unless you know how to make one at home--the RIGHT way...you have to go to the source.

The Italians in Chicago came mostly from New York at the turn of the 1900's and stayed--for awhile.  The ones that said "to heck with it" moved to Chicago and stayed (even through the violence of the '20's and 30's) and after WWII, many moved to the North, Far North, and Northwest Suburbs.  S few moved to the west over near Aurora, but not as many as North and Far North.  The ones that had successful eateries in The City set up shop in the suburbs.  Most served (if they even served pizza at all) the New York style that sold so well in NY and in The City.  The suburban Italian and non-Italian market wanted something different.....and Chicago Deep Dish was born.  Not everyone could do it, and few got it right---initially. 

I can honestly say I was LUCKY growing up in Lake County, IL.  It was the Little United Nations.  Greek Town, German Town, Lithuanian Town, Polish Town, Little Italy, Little China, Little Armenia, Little Mexico...the TRUE melting pot--and all the eateries you would ever care to sample. 

We had 2 TRUE CSDD joints.  Poetesta's in Waukegan and The Silo in Half Day.  The lines to get in were out the door and that round, 2 1/2" thick pie from Heaven awaited you.  The smell of the wood-oven fired pies being baked KILLED you while having to wait in line--but the wait was worth it.

Sure, you could get a seat right away at the NY Style joints in town...Louie's...Quonset Hut...

So if you are looking for a specialty pie you may want to try the original first...and judge the others by the original standard.

If you are ever in my neck of the woods I will make you up one fresh and to your specs.  The soda and beer will be cold as you chow down looking at the Ouchita Mountains.  :aok

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Re: Pizza
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2011, 06:29:38 PM »

You, Sir, are wise beyond your years and are on the cusp of being your own home-made pizza chef.   Really.


You guys are cheating yourselves if you do not try this out.  It will make you look like a genius to your friends and family. 
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2011, 08:09:32 PM »
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2011, 08:51:15 PM »
Had an awesome pizza place in Duluth called 'Vics new york style pizza' Was a family restaurant and every knew everyone, there was even a cute girl there i talked to a ton, but it god shut down.... Life wasn't the same after that  :cry
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2011, 09:08:47 PM »
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2011, 11:32:54 PM »
Pizza Hut :rock


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Re: Pizza
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2011, 08:17:15 AM »
OK only thing wrong with Emerils recipe is there is not one single "BAM" in it!

I was hoping this thread would get some recipes thrown out there.  Any more?  Anyone tried making a brick oven yet?  How hard could it be...right.
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2011, 08:37:13 AM »
Rox if you would be so kind as to enlighten me of the process of making a CSDD pizza I would be most welcome. :aok
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2011, 08:50:34 AM »
As a native NY'er, nothing beats the traditional pizzeria's. Unfortunately, I have had to make some concessions about the quality of the pizza I eat, so in a nut shell,Its Papa John's for me.
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Re: Pizza
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2011, 12:34:42 PM »


PLEASE post.... :pray


I have made them in the breadmaker before but those were the plain flour and warm water/active yeast typed of dough.

I will look for it this weekend, maybe even tonight since this cold weather and homemade pizza is a perfect excuse to crank up the oven to over 400 for an hour.  It is very generic though, plain flour, warm water, i think a little salt and yeast, it's just you mix it in the cuisinart rather than by hand.  Remove and put in a bowl to rise, done.  Roll crust, assemble, cook, serve.  Perfect for a weeknight after work where you want something as easy to cook as a 30-minute meal but you have 60-minutes to spare.  Edit: then again, rolling pizza dough might not be as easy for others as it is for my 6'-4" frame.


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