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Offline lulu

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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2011, 04:19:19 AM »
TY guys.

I think that i was able to use these things vs a la7 this night/morning.

In doing this the most difficult thing is to look back and manoeuvring at the same time.


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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2011, 08:48:41 AM »
Spiral farther out (larger spiral) and off the throttle ..... he who spirals in the shortest distance gets to be in front. :D

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what the hell have i been thinking?? i keep trying to keep my turn inside of the cons....even going down. guess this explains a lot.....
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2011, 09:45:51 AM »
YA KNOW?

what the hell have i been thinking?? i keep trying to keep my turn inside of the cons....even going down. guess this explains a lot.....

 :lol  Better watch out or you will find out that the guy inside can get guns on you.  There is no one single solution to that scenario, but he did ask about spiraling down.  Actually, the 38 needs to start the spiral to get the bad guy as slow as possible and then loop him to death.  But again, that is not spiraling down.
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 10:24:57 AM »
>>>>>>There is no one single solution to that scenario<<<<<<<<<<

This is the key. No one solution can be used. It is a constant ebb and flow. You must watch your competitor and react to his moves as well as introducing your own moves.

Stick time..... stick time........ stick time.........

My suggestion is just one of many. You can't use just one.
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2011, 04:06:13 PM »
I was not sure that this downward spiraling works.

Now i think about two golden rules:

1. Know ACM

2. Hide to the opponent your E.


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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 04:20:14 PM »
I was not sure that this downward spiraling works.

Now i think about two golden rules:

1. Know ACM

2. Hide to the opponent your E.


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that second one really can be helpful...many times it is this that gets me killed and kills and is something I am now learning...it was something I was told to look at from an early stage but took me a long time to know how to see it within this game without external visuals of the real world.
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 04:27:33 PM »
I welcome when people try to take it lower and lower. I just let them. Then I have alt advantage and they usually just try to fly away
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 06:10:06 PM »
Everytime I read the heading of this thread all I can think of is a "yoga" position!  :bolt:

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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 06:25:36 PM »
I welcome when people try to take it lower and lower. I just let them. Then I have alt advantage and they usually just try to fly away

But he was talking about  a co-e downward spiral fight that you are locked into Dred, I think I have been in a few of those with your d9 over the years in a 109. Boils down to who can make the angles for a solution. Plane type is pretty important in that situation.

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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 06:26:01 PM »
just do this...  :joystick:


works every time  :aok
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Re: downward spiraling dogfight
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 09:58:18 PM »
But he was talking about  a co-e downward spiral fight that you are locked into Dred, I think I have been in a few of those with your d9 over the years in a 109. Boils down to who can make the angles for a solution. Plane type is pretty important in that situation.

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Ahhh ok. But your not a typical opponent either lol. I often find that you can sometimes break away letting him go lower and if you can extend just a little bit and maintain your alt and smart maneuvering to position. You can often end up with your opponent at an alt disadvantage and soon an E disadvantage as well as most end up pulling too hard on the stick and pizz away what E they gained in trying to get back up to you for the shot.

You and I have been in a few types of engagements.  Not all ending to my liking I might add LOL
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