Another B-29 wish....

[MachFly]

Remove the 20mm.... I thought it was pretty well established and shown these were removed?

Give it a break, we don't even have the B-29 yet. Who knows maybe we'll have a gun package with & without it.

[Banshee7]

Given the choice, most people would choose the option with the 20mm...

[Krusty]

It was established that many, probably most, were removed, not all.  We have plenty of armament options in AH that were in the minority.

Not so much, we don't... Outside of a few exceptions I think most of the planeset is fairly representative.

There's an effort lately to revisit these armament options as planes are updated with newer 3D models. See the SpitVc reduced to SpitVb. See the 109F4 removed of gondolas. See the early 1943 109G6 with no 30mm option.

The emphasis is moving towards more representative loadouts. It's a clear trend in HTC's decisions over the past several years. I hope they stick with it.

[caldera]

They kept the rarer three cannon option when they remodeled the La7. 

[Krusty]

They kept the rarer three cannon option when they remodeled the La7. 

True... one of the few exceptions that come to mind.

[Karnak]

Not so much, we don't... Outside of a few exceptions I think most of the planeset is fairly representative.

There's an effort lately to revisit these armament options as planes are updated with newer 3D models. See the SpitVc reduced to SpitVb. See the 109F4 removed of gondolas. See the early 1943 109G6 with no 30mm option.

The emphasis is moving towards more representative loadouts. It's a clear trend in HTC's decisions over the past several years. I hope they stick with it.

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Sorry, you're wrong.  The Spit Vc to Vb had nothing to do with the Vc being rare, as it was the most common version of Spit V, it had to do with getting an earlier Spit V.  Same goes for the Bf109G-6 losing its 30mm, nothing to do with how common it was on G-6s and everything to do with none being on early 1943 G-6s.

The La-7, probably the most obvious example, retained its three B-20 cannon armament when it was updated, despite being updated well after the Spits and 109s.

[Beefcake]

Noooooo not my 20mm cannon, don't take mah bucket.....err I mean my 20mm cannon!

[VonKost]

The 20mm is cool and was common enough in the field! at least in the earlier A models. we should keep it!!  

(edited to clarify)

[Dr_Death8]

Well, technically if most were removed in the field, then it is a field mod which does not exist in AH. 

[Ack-Ack]

Well, technically if most were removed in the field, then it is a field mod which does not exist in AH. 

The removals weren't field modifications in the sense of field mods like adding a 20mm cannons to a PBY but rather an ordered thing from high command.  Since there were a limited number of B-29Bs produced, a few B-29A underwent conversion (though still retained the A model designation) and had the armor and guns removed similiar to the B model.

I believe the B-29As that were not stipped down retained the 20mm cannons while the stripped down A's initially went with the 2x .50 calibers and 20mm cannon and then later removed the 20mm cannon in favor of the 3x .50 caliber tail gun package similiar to the B.

ack-ack

[fullmetalbullet]

hey didnt the A model have a radar underneth it between the bombbay doors or was that only used on the model that flew during the korean war?

[Dichotomy]

The removals weren't field modifications in the sense of field mods like adding a 20mm cannons to a PBY but rather an ordered thing from high command.  Since there were a limited number of B-29Bs produced, a few B-29A underwent conversion (though still retained the A model designation) and had the armor and guns removed similiar to the B model.

I believe the B-29As that were not stipped down retained the 20mm cannons while the stripped down A's initially went with the 2x .50 calibers and 20mm cannon and then later removed the 20mm cannon in favor of the 3x .50 caliber tail gun package similiar to the B.

ack-ack

AA,

I'm sure it's been posted before but I'm not in the mood to drag through 100 B29 threads so.. why did they take them out?

[Ack-Ack]

AA,

I'm sure it's been posted before but I'm not in the mood to drag through 100 B29 threads so.. why did they take them out?

I believe the USAAF after some studies learned that 3x .50 calibers were just as effective with the radar guidance system than 2x .50s and single 20mm cannon.

ack-ack

[5PointOh]

Well, technically if most were removed in the field, then it is a field mod which does not exist in AH. 

But field mods do exsist in AH...check out the 51B.

[Beefcake]

When you get down to it, 3x50s would be more deadly IMO than the 2x50s plus the 20mm. The 20mm is going to have different ballistics than the fifty's so it'll throw off your aim a bit. Don't get me wrong though, when the 20mm's hit you they're still going to hurt like hell.