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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 12:19:45 PM »
If you really feel the need for an impact fuse, every other A2G rocket in game explodes on contact. The A2A rockets explode on contact as well. You just need contact before the timeed fuse does it's work.

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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2011, 12:32:11 PM »
there is a 110 gunsight with a scaled line towards the bottom for the rockets, line it up with the upper edge of the bombers wing @ 1k launch 2 rockets it will kill them, I'll have to remember to do a video next time
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2011, 12:40:27 PM »
There are a few of us rocket jockeys out there, that do quite well, thank you.

Most of my bomber kills this tour...and all other tours,(~80%) are with rockets.

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Bf 110G-2 by model type
Model Type    Kills    Percent
B-17G    4    19.048
B-24J    4    19.048
F6F-5    1    4.762
La-7    1    4.762
Lancaster III    7    33.333
P-47-D40    1    4.762
P-51D    2    9.524
Typhoon IB    1    4.762
     21 Kills    

And yes, Lancs do have a very soft spot for Wgr-21's.  Two full formations were killed with rockets, in one shot.   :airplane:

The 17's I killed 2 of with rockets, the 24's 3.  (another full set downed in one 2 rocket salvo)  The 17's seem to have a thicker skin, honestly.  I don't remember ever popping a full set in one shot.

If I remember correctly the La7 was a rocket shot too, but I'm not positive.

Your assessment of <5% bombers killed by rockets may be true, but I assure you it has nothing to do with the actual effectiveness of the rockets.  They are absolutely deadly, if you take the time to learn how to aim them.  They're not AAMRAAMS.  

As far as fighting in the 110, If you're smart, she'll reward you.  Many see 110 and figure easy kill... but an experienced pilot will make them pay.  Ask the guys who were flying the 2 P51's that make up that tally. They started out as a section... and ended as a section... in the tower  :neener:
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2011, 12:58:17 PM »
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The A2A rockets explode on contact as well. You just need contact before the timeed fuse does it's work.

Are you sure about that?  I thought I read somewhere on the forums the opposite was true.  That's awesome if they do burst on impact, and I always thought it strange that they wouldn't trigger the warhead when hitting something head on at a combined speed of probably 1000mph+.



Moray, awesome post, that's the exact info/input I was hoping for. <S>

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if you take the time to learn how to aim them.  They're not AAMRAAMS. 

Obviously there isn't an active guidance system in a WW2 rocket, unless we're talking about the A2G thing that sank that Italian battleship, but neither does there seem to be any "official" data on how to employ them via the "need training" or "help" buttons on the front page for new players not accustomed to searching through the phone book of responses when they type "rockets" into our BBS search engine.  So, your point on taking the time to learn to employ them is well taken.  Some vets, like Urchin said in his above post don't think much of the rckts, and I am/was amoung them, but after a few posts on here I'm going to be playing with them this weekend to see how good I can get with them in anticipation of shooting B29's with em.
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2011, 06:57:08 PM »
FYI, the rockets were all but useless at doing actual damage in WWII.  They were effective at causing formations to break though.  Very scary.
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 08:17:42 PM »
I lit a set of B-24's up once with rockets from a jug.
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 10:06:47 PM »
 A couple years ago I had the rockets down pat. Havent messed with em much lately. It got so buff kills were automatic. I started saving them for bnzers and poppin them on their way out.

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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 12:00:14 AM »
110G will never chase down a B-29 to get close enough to launch rockets. Even if it (for whatever reason, a dive, etc) closes behind one near enough to fire them, he's inside guns range because of how fast the B-29 will be flying.


Only way WGr21s will ever kill a B-29 in this game is if the B-29 LETS THEM....

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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 07:51:11 AM »
... neither does there seem to be any "official" data on how to employ them via the "need training" or "help" buttons on the front page for new players not accustomed to searching through the phone book of responses when they type "rockets" into our BBS search engine.

I thought there was some instructions on the trainers site but I cant find them.

basically, come in dead 6 on the buffs with a closure rate of 50-100mph. line up the buffs with the bottom of the gunsight and fire when their icon changes from 1.5k to 1.0k (about 1200yd), then peel away outta the buffs rear guns and observe the carnage. simples.
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 09:48:19 AM »
I enjoy killing buffs in a 110, but I dont think the 110 will get to alt to take out 29's, not mine anyway :lol
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2011, 02:26:41 PM »
Who needs A2A rockets when the A2G ones work so well?  All you need is big brass ones or be dumb as a stump (hence my attempts) and ripple fire a load of rockets from a high side pass.  You might miss a lot, but it is funny as hell when it works.  As big as a -29 is, it should up the chances of a hit.

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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 04:13:17 PM »
Densely packed tick formations of buffs aren't very common in the MAs, thus so is the practicality of regularly equiping and carrying the heavy AA mortars.  They work wonders, but are really a shotgun at best, and since at most the largest target of oportunity in the MAs will be a single 3-plane buff formation most pilots preffer to leave the shotgun at home.
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Re: B29 & A2A Rockets
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 09:45:43 PM »
I thought there was some instructions on the trainers site but I cant find them.

basically, come in dead 6 on the buffs with a closure rate of 50-100mph. line up the buffs with the bottom of the gunsight and fire when their icon changes from 1.5k to 1.0k (about 1200yd), then peel away outta the buffs rear guns and observe the carnage. simples.
correct... 1200 and bottom of the gunsight come in slow so you don't close too fast. I've killed plenty with rockets and the more you do it the better you get... keep in mind if you find ki's the fly faster and you need to be a hair closer.. just keep practicing and you'll have a blast with them.. only troubble is bombers in the ozone are vary hard to catch.