Author Topic: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?  (Read 5080 times)

Offline APDrone

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3385
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2011, 01:26:32 PM »
When, shuffler?
They were all over the place around 10PM central last night.
AKDrone

Scenario "Battle of Britain" 602nd Squadron


Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27302
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2011, 01:33:46 PM »
Around 11:30/midnight.

We had a fun fight going on between 2 bases.
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline VonKost

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 232
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2011, 04:28:25 PM »
Its perked heavily. Its fast, its a death star at altitudes. BUT... it makes players avoid each other, climb to uncatchable altitudes. And imo thats not good to the gameplay. I understand its über, but still, its perks cost shouldnt be lowered?

Flame suit on.

I wish it made people avoid mine! I lost 1 and got another damaged in my run at 30k last night. I got him but still...

Offline Zoney

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6503
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2011, 04:51:02 PM »
First I flew the B29 and landed it then I grabbed a C-HOG with the intent on finding one and engaging.  I did find one formation at 28k and calculated my approach.  It was friendly but the ME262 that had spent alot of time and effort to have a perfect attack position was not friendly.  The 262 had done everything right, right up to the part where he was 1.5k gaining hard on the B29's and never checked his 6 because after all "who else could be up here, I gotta be safe", KABLAMMO !!!  Tried to throw him a salute but amazingly enough he had logged 1.7 milleseconds after I killed him.

The friendly B29 driver was appreciative.

Zoney: ******* Check 6 there is a 262 dropping down hard on you!
B29:  Ok, I'll keep an eye on him.........................H mmmm, I don't see him, where is he.
Zoney: hebedead
Wag more, bark less.

Offline Dadsguns

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1979
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2011, 06:00:13 PM »
wow...the analytical gameplay business experts have gotten an early start on this one...

all the hoopla whines about "we wants de bee twenty niiiinnness"...less than 24 hours out the gate and now it's overperked, underperked, useless, no rational thought processes in play...  :rofl
:rofl

Its the " I want it I want it I want it I want it"  then dont do nothing with it.......   :lol

I suppose they thought they would use it as another NOE mission uber town crusher and never expect to have to actually "risk" fighting someone without paying a price....   ;)

 :rofl :rofl


"Your intelligence is measured by those around you; if you spend your days with idiots you seal your own fate."

Offline SectorNine50

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1331
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2011, 06:04:56 PM »
The B-29 has changed and will change nothing... NOTHING I tell ya!!!

Look at it's price... It's going to be a rare sight just like the AR234's.  And anyway, if you ask me, most people flying the AR234's are avoiding a fight as well, just using speed instead of altitude.

People need to relax until all the fuss about it's entry into the game has passed.  I wouldn't be surprised to see people going back to their B-17's and B-24's very shortly.
I'm Sector95 in-game! :-D

Offline kvuo75

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3003
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 08:35:29 PM »
as i predicted, it basically does nothing more than any other bomber does.

it will be used as much as the mossie 16.


I should amend:

If it's flown the way it's supposed to be, it is just more bombs coming out of the sky, and not even worth intercepting.. (was at ~39000msl doing 410tas about 86k lbs (empty) still accellerating on my first and only B29 flight today)
« Last Edit: February 23, 2011, 08:52:16 PM by kvuo75 »
kvuo75

Kill the manned ack.

Offline GNucks

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1324
      • VF-17 "Jolly Rogers"
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 09:29:46 PM »
Anyone who would take any bomber waaaay up high, wouldn't be one to take a fighter and find a fight, so they factor zero into gameplay either way.

Really now? I take 17's to 30K+ every other day or so but the rest of the time I'm flying light fighters looking for a tangle. Any bomber knows that you fly over the fight rather than through it, and pick off anyone who would follow you. Any fighter know knows you've got to jump into the fray eventually.

I think somebody's just posting while they're a little mad.  :furious

Rebel - Inactive
An amateur trains until he gets it right, a professional until he can't get it wrong.
vf-17.webuda.com

Offline StokesAk

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3665
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »
Really now? I take 17's to 30K+ every other day or so but the rest of the time I'm flying light fighters looking for a tangle. Any bomber knows that you fly over the fight rather than through it, and pick off anyone who would follow you. Any fighter know knows you've got to jump into the fray eventually.

I think somebody's just posting while they're a little mad.  :furious

bold statement is completely false.

People run from me, on a sortie basis and avoid the fight to come back later and kill me with some friends. I'm not complaining, just stating the obvious.

People will run from you for

1) no reason at all
2) to protect their score
3) to come kill you with their buds
4) protect their killstreak
5) avoid loosing perks (understandable)
6) because they plain and simply can't kill you 1v1

All of these reasons is why someone would run from 1 person. Imaging a group of them, or by gawd, an even furball. The only time these tards won't run is when they are the at gang pick fest over a base, or they are vultching the living hell out of imaginary planes.

To be honest, there is no reason for someone to "jump into the fight" other than the reason they enjoy the fight, in my opinion many people don't, they just want to rack up the kill, get perks, and protect their precious score.

B29 is practicly the same thing, people will ignore B29s while they toolshed to get their friends kills up by BnZing and vultching Il2s off the runway, or they will go ,as stated in this thread,  to 40k and lazer bomb anything they can get their plane over to rack up their own score. As I can't reverse the decision that HTC has made by putting the B29 in the game, I think that it could be a contibuting factor to player avoiding each other at all costs, and scorewhoring it up.
The old saying of "be careful of what you wish for" come to mind.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2011, 09:50:01 PM by StokesAk »
Strokes

Offline GNucks

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1324
      • VF-17 "Jolly Rogers"
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 10:09:03 PM »
<snip>
bold statement is completely false.

Bold? I wasn't trying to change the world with my post. I was addressing somebody who claimed anybody who takes the time to climb to the highest altitudes in a bomber is the sort of person who doesn't participate in dogfights or make a difference in the game.

I suppose I'm incorrect for saying any fighter knows they've got to jump into the fight eventually. But imo anyone who wants to be a "good stick" in the MA needs to learn how to be involved in a larger fight.

But this isn't what the thread's about. Nice long reply though  :aok

Rebel - Inactive
An amateur trains until he gets it right, a professional until he can't get it wrong.
vf-17.webuda.com

Offline jimson

  • AvA Staff Member
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7202
      • The Axis vs Allies Arena
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2011, 12:06:06 AM »
As someone who was a little disgusted that of all the planes that could have been added next, the majority chose this one, all I can say is... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Offline Jayhawk

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3909
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2011, 12:31:49 AM »
Anyone who would take any bomber waaaay up high, wouldn't be one to take a fighter and find a fight, so they factor zero into gameplay either way.

Not true.  Case in point, me.

I've had a lot of fun flying the B-29 so far, can't wait for some of the bugs to be worked out where I feel safe taking up a formation.  My prediction, it'll get used more than a Mossie 16 or 234, both because of it's bomb capability and it's cool factor, but the excitement will wear down and things will start returning to normal.  Also, if you think it's as easy to drop a hanger with the same amount of ord at 10,000 or 40,000, you don't know what you're talking about.  The B-29 is not an ideal bomber for hanger busting, by it's self it would take too long to get turned back around and get a solid calibration.  Now in a large group it could be successful, but so could any other formation of bombers (and what is more likely to be intercepted, another flight of B-17s or a group of perked B-29s, much more intriguing).  Town centers will no doubt continue to be dropped, but this hardly has an effect on game-play.  Strat runs can be fun (as long as they aren't near a 163 base), but city strat still is a worthless target.

I'm sure as hell going to continue to take that thing up to 30k though,  shot a few down and saw a few get shot down, it really doesn't take much to light them or, sometimes they just pop with a quick burst.  Until strat gets changed, I'll probably fly the B-29 just as a fun plane every once in a while, hardly worth risking 300+ perks to drop targets when I can do that more effectively in a B-17.

Btw, I'm absolutely loving the people who are jumping on the "I told you so!" bandwagon about the B-29. The plane is very cool, and given the chance, I'd vote for it again.  Just because a few people are whining, you believe that represents the thousands of votes that went behind it.  The simple fact is it's in the game, deal with it, go shoot it down if you hate it so much.  :rolleyes:
LOOK EVERYBODY!  I GOT MY NAME IN LIGHTS!

Folks, play nice.

Offline rpm

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15661
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2011, 12:35:01 AM »
So far the B-29 has completely ruined gameplay for me because the freaking game crashes whenever I try to join an arena.  :bhead :bhead :bhead
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Stay thirsty my friends.

Offline fullmetalbullet

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 834
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2011, 12:44:03 AM »
So far the B-29 has completely ruined gameplay for me because the freaking game crashes whenever I try to join an arena.  :bhead :bhead :bhead


how do you know its the B-29s fualt? it could be a bug, for me im not havint any problems logging in. or taking the thing up in offline practice.
"Cry Havoc, And Let Slip The Dogs Of War" Julius Caesar


Offline Jayhawk

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3909
Re: Is the b-29 good for the gameplay?
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2011, 12:45:00 AM »

how do you know its the B-29s fualt? it could be a bug, for me im not havint any problems logging in. or taking the thing up in offline practice.

Dude, you need to figure out how sarcasm works, you've been missing it all night.
LOOK EVERYBODY!  I GOT MY NAME IN LIGHTS!

Folks, play nice.