Red Tails- Movie

[EskimoJoe]

shockingly enough there are these things called 'books' that one could read to get around the actual truth to the events.

Shockingly enough not everyone has these books in their personal or local library.

[clerick]

So, can I take my seven year old Son to the movie?

I took my eight year old and I didn't have any reservations. In fact he loved it! He has spent all of his earned computer time since, looking up the planes he saw and flying offline in Ah. 

[Tank-Ace]

I'd say my biggest complaint was that the ACM was clearly made to look cool to someone whos never seen a military aircraft, yet alone an actual dogfight, first and foremost, with realism being secondary. P-51 pulling that fast of a reveral at the top of his zoom? I think not!

Second, some parts of the film were kind of just "oh look a black man, hes gonna be stupid....... oh wow, hes new but he flys like a veteran..... OK, I instantly think black men are equal now".

Third, really kind of cheesy at some parts.


It was made for the people that don't know jack crap about WWII fighters and ACM, on screen it was what that description would suggest, but I was expecting worse and so came away mildly pleased.


Oh, and btw, whats that....... thing... in your avatar?

[Shifty]

Red Tails is a movie meant to entertain. Aces High is a game meant to entertain. The aerial combat experiance on this BBS is all in cartoon aircraft.
Everybody on this board is as full of it as George Lucas. 

[kilo2]

Shockingly enough not everyone has these books in their personal or local library.

 

That is very true though. And some of those books can be pricey. I looked at the Redstar Black cross series. 400 dollars for the first book.

[Flipperk]

I'd say my biggest complaint was that the ACM was clearly made to look cool to someone whos never seen a military aircraft, yet alone an actual dogfight, first and foremost, with realism being secondary. P-51 pulling that fast of a reveral at the top of his zoom? I think not!

Second, some parts of the film were kind of just "oh look a black man, hes gonna be stupid....... oh wow, hes new but he flys like a veteran..... OK, I instantly think black men are equal now".

Third, really kind of cheesy at some parts.


It was made for the people that don't know jack crap about WWII fighters and ACM, on screen it was what that description would suggest, but I was expecting worse and so came away mildly pleased.


Oh, and btw, whats that....... thing... in your avatar?

Yes, flying a video game makes you an expert in the field of ACM.... please... unless you actually flew the damn planes you really do not know jack-crap... I can make my Cessna 172 do things it was never designed to do...

[Dichotomy]

Shockingly enough not everyone has these books in their personal or local library.

and yet everyone in this discussion has access to Amazon.com and various other sources for obtaining literature.

As to the pricey aspect?  That is a valid point.  I rely on Half Price Books.  Picked up four interesting ones for under $20 just last weekend.  I believe I saw one on the Tuskegee Airmen for under $5 but that's not exactly my focus at the moment. 

[lyric1]

BTW, does anyone know how the Red Tails really got their 262 kills on that mission?  Did they get them defending the bombers or did they stake out an airfield and get the jets on takeoff and landing?

I think this has the answers some place on the clip.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACecpfY_HA&feature=related

[Maverick]

Shockingly I see that many here forget there is a source of books, particularly historical ones written by the folks who really did the deeds, that can be found in libraries at no cost.

Forget the ACM you see / hear / do in this GAME. It is not the same as the real world combat and folks who make great game players are not real experts.

Hollywierd rarely gets much of anything historical correct in an entertainment product. Watch it like you did avatar. Enjoy the effects but keep in mind it was made by folks who probably never handled the yoke of a Cessna 152 much less a fighter. Was the film entertaining enough to justify the bucks you spent in going to it? If so then great, but don't go in thinking it contains much reality on the screen.

[kilo2]

Shockingly I see that many here forget there is a source of books, particularly historical ones written by the folks who really did the deeds, that can be found in libraries at no cost.

Forget the ACM you see / hear / do in this GAME. It is not the same as the real world combat and folks who make great game players are not real experts.

Hollywierd rarely gets much of anything historical correct in an entertainment product. Watch it like you did avatar. Enjoy the effects but keep in mind it was made by folks who probably never handled the yoke of a Cessna 152 much less a fighter. Was the film entertaining enough to justify the bucks you spent in going to it? If so then great, but don't go in thinking it contains much reality on the screen.

You might be surprised on the state of some public libraries.

[Masherbrum]

Shockingly I see that many here forget there is a source of books, particularly historical ones written by the folks who really did the deeds, that can be found in libraries at no cost.

Forget the ACM you see / hear / do in this GAME. It is not the same as the real world combat and folks who make great game players are not real experts.

Hollywierd rarely gets much of anything historical correct in an entertainment product. Watch it like you did avatar. Enjoy the effects but keep in mind it was made by folks who probably never handled the yoke of a Cessna 152 much less a fighter. Was the film entertaining enough to justify the bucks you spent in going to it? If so then great, but don't go in thinking it contains much reality on the screen.

QFT!

[doright]

Journalist (and movie reviewers) need to research their facts before publishing their ignorance on aviation related topics.

Right away, the film plays fast and loose with period by enabling their buddies back at the base to watch footage of the explosive strike, as if every plane were equipped with a camera that could provide nightly ESPN-style highlights. Talk about kowtowing to a younger generation that supposedly requires instantaneous and repeated gratification.

http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/19/10189804-red-tails-flies-but-never-soars

[james]

Talking I talian girl was the most believable part of the movie. The acting was well..........

[Bruv119]

does anyone know when/if it is going to be released outside of the US?

[Rich52]

If you play a game like this you will probably not only like the movie but will also buy the Blue Ray. Lucas has a long history of ruining good actors with trite dialog but as long as you can see these airplanes flying....who cares? I Thought it a good movie.