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Offline Wolfala

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2011, 03:28:05 PM »
They're appetite was bigger than their stomach!

The Japanese were doomed from the outset of war. They didn't have a hope in hell of eating the buffet they had ordered! They should have been content with their gains in china and waited years before trying to belly up to the adult buffet  :aok


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By that logic,

GODZILLA was a post war manifestation of Japan's Pre war and early war desires expressed in a lizard that gets himself in too deep and subsequently has his bellybutton kicked.

But seriously, F4F and FM2 did the hard part.


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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2011, 04:13:18 PM »
Aircraft was a piece of the puzzle, but not the whole enchilada.

What defeated the Japanese was technology.

Allies had standard semi-automatic rifles, the Japanese were still using the bolt action (and antiquated) Arisaka.
Allies had more and better machine guns.
Allies had flame-throwers.
Allies had more and better designed hand grenades.
Allies had proximity fuses in their AAA on board ships.
Allies had already pretty much broken the Japanese radio code.
Allies had reliable sources of raw materials and the technology to get them to manufacturers.


There's a lot more but the Japanese literaly thought that they could wage a war in the 1940's with 1920's and 1930's technology.  The DID work some technology into their newer planes and ships but it was too little too late.  They also ran out of experienced pilots by early 1944, some say even earlier.

It's hard to win any conflict in a great tank ---against an enemy that can easily fire on the fly as well as ID you with night vision if you have neither.

The sheer doggedness, loyalty, and tenacity of the Japanese soldier is what made up for many shortcomings in technology, but could never make up for the lack of technology versus the B-29 and an atomic bomb.

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2011, 04:37:05 PM »
uh actually, they threw in the towel against the soviets...well documented...just sayin.
duhh the USSR defeated japan in 1945

Only on this forum can I have the joy of seeing a tongue-in-cheek movie reference turned history lesson be pulled apart and critiqued.  And for the record the hornet's nest was Pearl Harbor/USA.  So they had yet to throw in the towel against the Soviets and it wasn't 1945 yet...just sayin :noid
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2011, 05:54:46 PM »
I want my hook back when you are done with it... just sayin  :noid

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2011, 06:07:37 PM »
F6F had the bulk of the kills...............

38s got Yamamoto. :D

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2011, 07:16:47 PM »
Ok, i need your help.  My dad and brother are arguing with me on what U.S. fighter defeated the japs.  They both said the P-51.  I disagree to a certain extent and said the F4U did.  What is the answer.  (ack-ack and/or krusty will be by to answer this) 

They would both be wrong, it was the B29 and specifically the Atom Bomb.......     :t


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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2011, 07:43:10 PM »
They would both be wrong, it was the B29 and specifically the Atom Bomb.......     :t

The atom bomb only hastened the ending of the war with Japan. The war was actually won for all practical purposes with the capture of Okinawa, The real turning point in the Pacific was the Japanese defeat at Midway. (who was it that said Strawberry 5?)
 Japan has no real natural resources, and  once it had lost control of it's supply lines it was pretty much done.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2011, 07:43:59 PM »
     The Japanese were beaten long before the A-bombs were dropped.  They just gave Hirohito an excuse to throw
in the towel.  Sorry Sik, you posted as I did  :D

      It's not so much that the Russians beat the Japanese as kicked them when they were down.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2011, 07:50:13 PM »
    The Japanese were beaten long before the A-bombs were dropped.  They just gave Hirohito an excuse to throw
in the towel.  Sorry Sik, you posted as I did  :D

      It's not so much that the Russians beat the Japanese as kicked them when they were down.

Yes, in fact the Soviets didn't declare war on Japan until near the end of the war, and through most of the war seemed as if they didn't want to anger the Japanese.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #69 on: February 28, 2011, 10:57:54 PM »
Marines.

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2011, 12:08:18 AM »
if you were to believe my great Uncles stories he defeated the Japs single handedly on the Kokoda track.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2011, 01:34:02 AM »
if you were to believe my great Uncles stories he defeated the Japs single handedly on the Kokoda track.

Considering the brawl the Aussies won on that trail, I'd be hard pressed not to believe him.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2011, 02:15:53 AM »
They would both be wrong, it was the B29 and specifically the Atom Bomb.......     :t

I would say that the B29 and the lower level fire bombing did more damage then then nooks...

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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2011, 03:25:40 AM »
Which plane? F6F, hands down.
Which main reason:
1 The japanese failed to knock down the pacific fleet
2 That allowed the US to wage war while building up an arsenal that Japan could never compete with.
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Re: What defeated the japs?
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2011, 03:41:13 AM »
Marines.

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and incidently they did not win the Pacific war. I believe this did.



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