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Offline flight17

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Perk and disco system
« on: March 03, 2011, 09:46:55 PM »
Well it happened... was flying a formation of B29's just now in the blue arena and had just flattened the base's town (1.5 pages of buildings from both town squares) and then my game stuttered for 3 seconds and then BAM lost host connection. I hardly ever loose connection. Lost 174 perks total from all three and now i cant up a formation of B29's. We need a real time system that can determine where the connection was lost so if someone gets discoed they don’t loose any perks.

Have the game send reports back to the server every 30 seconds. If the game looses contact with the server, then the server will look at the past say 5 min to determine if there was a reason for someone to pull the plug themselves (any cons near them, had just dropped all there bombs and was far from home, heavily damaged, etc) If these conditions are determined to be absent, then the full perk points should be returned. I don’t think this even really has to be a real time thing. It might just be our games making a log and then when the game closes (for whatever reason, lost connection, leaving the games, being done for the night, etc) it sends the log into the server for the night to be analyzed. The server would then analyze it and again then returns any lost perks like just above.

Another option which might be the most fool proof method would be if we lose host connection, then instead of the game crashing to main menu, let it continue in offline mode. Now if we do this method, then the person if in a perk ride can RTB to the nearest base and then land his aircraft and then send in the same type of report from above. When in this offline mode, no objects can be destroyed to increase your score, you would only be allowed to RTB. However the above analyzing of data by the server still needs to be done just to make sure people aren’t pulling the cords out to be able to get a free rtb.

The replacement of the perks doesn’t have to be instant. I would be fine if they were replaced the next day like how it take a day for the score to be updated, but they need to be replaced. We work hard for these perks to allowed to take up aircraft that we normally wouldn’t and shouldn’t be able to loose them like this especially when its out of our control. Its sad to loose perks in fights, but its totally disheartening when you loose them to freaking discos which you have no control over.
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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 10:03:11 PM »
If my 262 caught fire I would just pull the plug...


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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 10:04:47 PM »
I must admit that I won't fly B29s in the MA simply because of the random crashes to desk top that there is apparently no solution.

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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 01:03:13 PM »
Random crashes to desktop are the fault of "YOUR" computer!

 Likely culprets are updates to programs running in the background.  So clean up your machine or use 1 of the numerous software programs that will "cleanup" your machine and you'll see these discoe's almost disappear. I have disoed only 2 or 3 times in the past years or so.



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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 01:13:15 PM »
Random crashes to desktop are the fault of "YOUR" computer!

 Likely culprets are updates to programs running in the background.  So clean up your machine or use 1 of the numerous software programs that will "cleanup" your machine and you'll see these discoe's almost disappear. I have disoed only 2 or 3 times in the past years or so.



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Yep, though there are always bugs with the release of a new aircraft, ultimately, you are responsible for your computer and your internet connection.

Have the game send reports back to the server every 30 seconds. If the game looses contact with the server, then the server will look at the past say 5 min to determine if there was a reason for someone to pull the plug themselves (any cons near them, had just dropped all there bombs and was far from home, heavily damaged, etc) If these conditions are determined to be absent, then the full perk points should be returned. I don’t think this even really has to be a real time thing. It might just be our games making a log and then when the game closes (for whatever reason, lost connection, leaving the games, being done for the night, etc) it sends the log into the server for the night to be analyzed. The server would then analyze it and again then returns any lost perks like just above.

I'm not a game programmer, but I can't imagine how difficult it would be to determine the cause of a lost connection, including trying to monitor all that information.

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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 01:15:29 PM »
no random crashes and blue screens are mostly due to vox.  they started when switching to miles system.  how do I know?  you will hear the beep of a vox transmission, then you're gone.  I didnt know what a disco was up until when the miles system was installed then i average 2 or 3 a day.  most discos do not get recorded since the game just freezes and i have to press the reset button.  but you cannot blame my computer for it.  I only use my computer for ah and to pay my bills.  no other games, whatever on it.  sorry tired of people blaming our computers when the game is most likely the reason.

I kept a tally of what i was doing when computer crashed, every time, it was during a transmission, mostly incoming.

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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 01:41:40 PM »
no random crashes and blue screens are mostly due to vox.  they started when switching to miles system.  how do I know?  you will hear the beep of a vox transmission, then you're gone.  I didnt know what a disco was up until when the miles system was installed then i average 2 or 3 a day.  most discos do not get recorded since the game just freezes and i have to press the reset button.  but you cannot blame my computer for it.  I only use my computer for ah and to pay my bills.  no other games, whatever on it.  sorry tired of people blaming our computers when the game is most likely the reason.

I kept a tally of what i was doing when computer crashed, every time, it was during a transmission, mostly incoming.

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You are trying to use one example as a representation of the entire community.  That would be like a drug company testing a new drug only on you, then deciding if it works for the entire population based on your results.  I would venture to guess that a large majority of game crashes are the fault of the computer using them.  Now there is no doubt the Miles sound system had major problems when it was first released, but if it's as bad as you say, why isn't the entire community up in arms like when the system first was released?  It seems you haven't searched for an answer on these forums since this thread over six months ago, have you considered seeking Skuzzy's help again?
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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 02:36:03 PM »
I run a NEW and CLEAN computer to play Aces High. The only things on my desktop are AH, AVG, and spybot. And I still have the same problem of the game freezing up and booting me from the game, I have a ultra hi-speed connection, but will still only get 20 fps frame rate. I don't why that is, but I have the same problem. It sucks, that's why I never use a perkie. Sometimes I can go days without being discoed, other days it happens 4-5 times an hour. REALLY SUCKS!   :furious

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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 03:02:43 PM »
no random crashes and blue screens are mostly due to vox.  they started when switching to miles system.  how do I know?  you will hear the beep of a vox transmission, then you're gone.  I didnt know what a disco was up until when the miles system was installed then i average 2 or 3 a day.  most discos do not get recorded since the game just freezes and i have to press the reset button.  but you cannot blame my computer for it.  I only use my computer for ah and to pay my bills.  no other games, whatever on it.  sorry tired of people blaming our computers when the game is most likely the reason.

I kept a tally of what i was doing when computer crashed, every time, it was during a transmission, mostly incoming.

semp
funny you mention that, i had just finished talking and another player started when i got discoed. Thinking back, every time i have been discoed other than when i forget to start my cooling fan, it has always happened right after or during a communication.

Joach, and your the reason why everyone else has to get pentalized.

I hardly ever get discoed from the game, though i record at lease two every month because I forget to turn on my fan which i have to then restart the computer entirely, which if that happened last night, i would still be fine with since it was my fault. The problem i have is when it comes completely out of no where. Why should i have my points taken away when i did nothing wrong? Nothing is running in the background when i play. Its funny how this is the only game in the 4 years ive been here that i loose connection to the "host/server" while in online play.
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Re: Perk and disco system
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 04:37:47 PM »
You are trying to use one example as a representation of the entire community.  That would be like a drug company testing a new drug only on you, then deciding if it works for the entire population based on your results.  I would venture to guess that a large majority of game crashes are the fault of the computer using them.  Now there is no doubt the Miles sound system had major problems when it was first released, but if it's as bad as you say, why isn't the entire community up in arms like when the system first was released?  It seems you haven't searched for an answer on these forums since this thread over six months ago, have you considered seeking Skuzzy's help again?

see I am not alone :).  I don't really bother checking or calling because the answer I get its that its my computer.  learn that when I first pointed out the bug in the system that would cause some people to not give check sixes or zoom in/out. 

I get more than enough perks a day to offset the ones lost flying b29's.  I figure eventually they will fix the bug when they find it, no reason to get upset about it.

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