Study: A Look At Hard Drive Reliability in RU

[TequilaChaser]

I just ran across this Tom's Hardware article, and I did not recall anyone posting the link to it here in any of the threads regarding Hard Drives


Study: A Look At Hard Drive Reliability In Russia

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hdd-reliability-storelab,2681.html

I found this article a good bit interesting, , since I have always recommended Hitachi over other HD brands and have debated it with several in the community.... read the article slowly, and note that this was limited to a select storage size from the major manufactuers and the article does not cover every single type of or brand of Hard Drive / storage drive or application of,  that is out there.....but the findings are still worth the read


also, here is another link ,  about all defunct HD manufacturers just for the fun of it....

List of defunct hard disk manufacturers    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers

note that WD bought out Hitachi in 2011 (this year, this is sad news I just found out today  )



TC

[gyrene81]

   i have 4 hitachi "deathstar" drives sitting in a pile ready to be crushed...2 from laptops and 2 from desktops...if you can make them work you can have them...otherwise i'm using the drive crusher on them.

[TequilaChaser]

  i have 4 hitachi "deathstar" drives sitting in a pile ready to be crushed...2 from laptops and 2 from desktops...if you can make them work you can have them...otherwise i'm using the drive crusher on them.

we could all pile our old "crashed" HD's regardless of brand and collect the scarp money for BEER or Tequila????


I found it odd they found Seagate was worse than WD for these 500gig HD's ........ I would of put WD right there at 1st or 2nd with Maxtor being number 1, although Maxtor is not on the list

I have lost more WD's than of SeaGate ..and never had a Maxtor to last at all over maybe 1 1/2 yrs tops before starting to go bad ( although I have not owned large quantities of either maybe 10 to 12 WD's and 3 or 4 seagates about 8 Maxtor's but only 1 WD since 2009, and all the others were before 2002/2003 )

don't need no drive crusher, just get you a really strong magnet........ no more drilling and crushing ....heh

I did not post the link to the article to start debating again, we all like what we like.....but if it helps an individual make a more educated decision when purchasing their PC components, then posting this link did what I intended it to do.....and nothing more

 

TC

[gyrene81]

scrap enough drives and we won't have to choose, we can have both beer and tequila together... 

i forgot maxtors...those could go either way easily, bout like seagate...don't recall ever having one last 5 years though... 

i don't actually "crush" my drives...and anyone gets within 50 yards of my systems with a heavy magnet better be packin some heat...my drive "crusher" is a 3lbs shop hammer... 

place the drive on a solid flat surface...hit the drive where the spindle dimple is...like trying to drive a 16 penny nail through a 2x4 in one shot...platters turn into little bitty shards.

[guncrasher]

I have both hitachi deskstar 1tb the one they said not to buy and a wd aals 750g both are working great except sometimes the wd fails to be recognized at start-up. 

semp

[BoilerDown]

I had a couple IBM "Deathstars" from before they were acquired by Hitachi, in a Raid 0 in my home computer.  It was certainly an oh-crap moment when the bug was publicized.  The worst though was a certain 20 or 40 gig Seagate model that had a 100% failure rate over 2 or 3 years at my old job.  Apparently they used a paint that ate through or dissolved a component in one of the chips on the circuit board.  None of those hard drives had a chance to survive very long.

Most hard drives that I've seen fail did so because they had a fatal design flaw.  The rest for the most part survive past the point where your replace them because they're hopelessly obsolete.  This has held independent of any specific brand.

[DREDIOCK]

I just ran across this Tom's Hardware article, and I did not recall anyone posting the link to it here in any of the threads regarding Hard Drives


Study: A Look At Hard Drive Reliability In Russia

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hdd-reliability-storelab,2681.html

I found this article a good bit interesting, , since I have always recommended Hitachi over other HD brands and have debated it with several in the community.... read the article slowly, and note that this was limited to a select storage size from the major manufactuers and the article does not cover every single type of or brand of Hard Drive / storage drive or application of,  that is out there.....but the findings are still worth the read


also, here is another link ,  about all defunct HD manufacturers just for the fun of it....

List of defunct hard disk manufacturers    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers

note that WD bought out Hitachi in 2011 (this year, this is sad news I just found out today  )



TC

I thought I remembered you as being a big fan of the WD Caviar black?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Russia has so horrible mains supply stability that the statistics there may show nothing more than models that are prone to destruction when being fed badly filtered, phase incoherent and voltage swaying juice.

[TequilaChaser]

ummm. No sir, Dred...... I have always been talked down to about my choice being Hitachi... on this forum kind of..but it does not matter, everyone has their choice.

MrRiplEy,
that same theory can be said for most of the United States regarding electrical power supply distributed throughout the homes & businesses...
I have experienced it first hand especially in VA, NC, SC, TN, GA and FL...... the Power Grid is crumbling and is not upgraded fast enough to keep up with the population's power demand, here..... It is hell on electrical components in HVAC especially when the power legs are uneven , dirty, erratic and not steady...regardless if one is talking single phase and three phase / 110,115,120,208,220,230,240,250,270,400,460,480,600v...etc.../ 60,90,100,125,150,200,400 etc... amp service

I would think ( and I know assuming is not wise most times ), that any research, testing, studies being done would be performed under"controlled" situations, although this specific test/study had no control over how each individual HD was powered up, I would not come to the conclusion that more WD or Seagate HD's had more unstable power condtions than the Hitachi HD's did, I just take it as Hitachi builds a more reliable product regarding the "Specific Model/Sized 500gig HD's".....excluding user error, which is also mentioned in the article...... just because a HD fails does not always fall on the manufacturer, but on the HD Owner and how they handled/maintained their components......

so when someone tells me, "I would not buy that, I had one(or more) go bad", I have to ask myself: was it the manufactuer's fault the product failed?  or was it the User's fault?

it is odd that trying to find these studies are a bit like searching for a needle in a hay stack


It would be interesting to know how the HD Brand use breaks down for the  "commercial/corporate/Industrial companys"..... kind of in the same fashion as how more homeowners/consumers use HP/Canon/Brothers  printers/AIO printers verses what the corporate world more relys on???