mossie too slow

[rebelpride99]

I was watching a documentary concerning the mossie. They flew at 400 mph and carried 1000 lb bombs. The in game mossie wont top out at that speed level or tote 1000 lb bombs. Im not complaining just pointing it out.

[Lusche]

Our Mossie B.XVI tops out at almost 410 mph and carries up to 5000lbs.

What was your question again?

[fullmetalbullet]

have you used WEP? you'll hit 400 easy using that. and carrying full ords.

[LLogann]

Come on Bruder, you know he's talking about the FB mkVI.

Our Mossie B.XVI tops out at almost 410 mph and carries up to 5000lbs.

What was your question again?

That documentary isn't quite right though.....

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/Mosquito/MosquitoFB6Manual.pdf

Go to page 38.   

[Scherf]

Not going to get 400 out of the VI. The XVI on the other hand...

[SmokinLoon]

Just remember that most of the over-generalized stuff you see on the military or history channel is for a very broad audience and as such they don't break things down or tell the entire story.  Be very wary of that.

First, the Mossi that reached that fast was probably "naked", light, was at perfect altitude, and had minimal fuel.  Most of the aircraft test platforms were/are that way.

Second, there are multiple variants of the Mossi and some could and some could not do certain things.  Read up, there are a whole host of websites out there with the basics.  Someone will hopefully post what THEE most authoritative printed source is on the Mossi.      

[bozon]

Not going to get 400 out of the VI. The XVI on the other hand...

People tend to forget to check at what alt is the top speed achieved. 400+ mph at 30,000 there were quite a few planes that could do. 400 at sea level non could do. The 355 deck speed of the moss VI is quite impressive considering this is a 1943 plane. Same as the La7 - it reaches 400 mph, but way WAY lower than most 400+ birds.

[Tyrannis]

sorry for such a simple question, but our the mossies we have in-game actually WOODEN mossies? ive been wondering this.


and if they are wooden, do they have the benefits of avoiding radar like the rl wooden mossies had?

[Plazus]

No. Historically, Mossies were made with reinforced titanium and carbon fiber. Very technologically advanced during that time... Hence the reason why they burn so well. Mossies in game are not wooden.

PS: Mossies also had an advanced surround sound system too, which helped the pilots at that time with situational awareness.

[StokesAk]

No. Historically, Mossies were made with reinforced titanium and carbon fiber. Very technologically advanced during that time... Hence the reason why they burn so well. Mossies in game are not wooden.

PS: Mossies also had an advanced surround sound system too, which helped the pilots at that time with situational awareness.

[Reaper90]

sorry for such a simple question, but our the mossies we have in-game actually WOODEN mossies? ive been wondering this.


and if they are wooden, do they have the benefits of avoiding radar like the rl wooden mossies had?

Our mossies in game are made of pixels..... which are made of electrons and fairy dust.

psssst - all mossies were made of wood. We know this because wood floats in water, and ducks also float in water. The mossie weighs the same as a duck, therefore it is made of wood.

[AWwrgwy]

How does weather radar work?

 

Metal clouds?




obfuscate




wrongway

[Karnak]

I was watching a documentary concerning the mossie. They flew at 400 mph and carried 1000 lb bombs. The in game mossie wont top out at that speed level or tote 1000 lb bombs. Im not complaining just pointing it out.

The Mosquito Mk VI in AH matches the best performance on 100 octane fuel obtained by Mosquito Mk VIs.  There was no altitude at which a Mosquito Mk VI could hold 400mph in level flight.

Mosquitoes with two stage engines, such as the Mosquito Mk XVI we have in AH, or for fighters, the Mosquito NF.Mk.30, could exceed 400mph by a good bit at high altitude.

sorry for such a simple question, but our the mossies we have in-game actually WOODEN mossies? ive been wondering this.


and if they are wooden, do they have the benefits of avoiding radar like the rl wooden mossies had?

As noted earlier, all Mosquitoes share the same wooden construction.

The invisibility/fainter returns on radar for the Mosquito is a myth.  They have the same radar return as any other aircraft their size, roughly the same return as what you'd get from a P-38.  Radar in WWII was not as long ranged and by the time you detect an aircraft that size and traveling at the speed a Mosquito at altitude would cruise at it is very difficult to scramble a fighter, even a Bf109K-4, and intercept it.  Speed was the Mosquito's defense.

[bozon]

PS: Mossies also had an advanced surround sound system too, which helped the pilots at that time with situational awareness.

Yey for the speaker in the ceiling! Best feature ever after the beer cooler box behind the navigator!

[Angus]

I do recall this "invisibility myth" from my youth. However, I never found much to support it. Only one thing, but I cannot find it now. It was that the mossie's signal was weaker than of a typical aircraft it's size, thereby giving it a fake ID.
What we DO know however, is that tracking a fast target is harder than a slow one, which could have generated a problem for the German tracking system (Wurzburg would be aimed at the target, being guded there by the Freyja system before)
What we also DO know is that NF mossies were used for both bluff and jamming missions, spreading "window", - i.e. a metal foil.
The biggest bluff of all times would still be the one made by the Lancasters og 617 sqn. At the night before the Normandy landings they created a "ghost fleet" heading for pas-de-Calais simply by dropping window in the precise time and locations.
By the way, - Mossie pathfinders had the lowest loss rate of any Bomber command type, - 0.03%