Nazi Bomber

[Raphael]

Actually, I would equate it with a USAF bomber being a Democratic or Republican bomber versus an American bomber.

I'm sure the Canadians, especially the Quebecois, would have something to say about your analogy, residing in America and what not.


wrongway

exactly, you dont call USAF bomber a democratic bomber.

[Debrody]

First of all: not all the germans were nazis, and not all the nazis were/are germans. I should know.
To the he-177: been asked before, not as long ago. The later variants (post-'43) were great and  liked by the crew, the earlyers were POS. Would be a nice addition, was still far more successful than the 163.
Ju-188: thats a great little hit and run bomber, with good bombload, great speed and weak defensive guns.
He-111: was great in the early war, but i dont think it would see more use than the Betty. lil ugly plane, but i give it a +1. Would be a great perk farmer, and would fill the gap in the scenarios.

We need a german bomber. I would vote for the 188, but its not my decision.

[Wildcat1]

exactly, you dont call USAF bomber a democratic bomber.

i think the B-24 is closest out of all American bombers to any American philosophy

"Liberator"

[Pigslilspaz]

Need the 111 most of all. Biggest gap I can think of.

[dirt911]

M18... ................

[BrownBaron]

+1, though I did not know that inanimate objects could have political beliefs. 

[Rino]

exactly, you dont call USAF bomber a democratic bomber.

     A B-29 Obama-er?  Just kidding guys, not a political post! 

[Skillzinvade]

only a short number of these planes were produced, about 1,400 i think. They didnt work as good as planned and had many engine/ tech problems. I would rather have the..
He111 

[PJ_Godzilla]

First of all: not all the germans were nazis, and not all the nazis were/are germans. I should know.
To the he-177: been asked before, not as long ago. The later variants (post-'43) were great and  liked by the crew, the earlyers were POS. Would be a nice addition, was still far more successful than the 163.
Ju-188: thats a great little hit and run bomber, with good bombload, great speed and weak defensive guns.
He-111: was great in the early war, but i dont think it would see more use than the Betty. lil ugly plane, but i give it a +1. Would be a great perk farmer, and would fill the gap in the scenarios.

We need a german bomber. I would vote for the 188, but its not my decision.

Why not the Do-217? 6600 lbs of bombs, a 290 knot top speed and an aft clamshell-type dive brake... What's not to like? They had a hard-nosed version as well, for a little airfield-beasting action. 1700 or so were built and it served from late-'40 onward... This strikes me as a better/more successful pick than the overhyped greif POS.

Of course, given my druthers, I'd take ALL OF 'EM plus a 388 to boot. While only 100 or so of these were built, they were in service by the end of hostilities and one was even shot down over England.

[Debrody]

Why not the Do-217?

Couse i dont know anything about it 
Those numbers are impressive tho. I would fly any german bomber.

[olds442]

did some one say HE177




*faints* + googel

[321BAR]

M18... ................

people should stop outsourcing MY wish

[Karnak]

To the he-177: been asked before, not as long ago. The later variants (post-'43) were great and  liked by the crew, the earlyers were POS. Would be a nice addition, was still far more successful than the 163.

They were never "great", they did reach "marginally acceptable" though.  Yes, they had the highest survival rate of the little Blitz, but compared to a B-17 or Lancaster they were fragile.  Saying something was far more successful than the Me163 isn't really much of an endorsement.

I do agree with you that the Ju188 would be my choice, and with a 20mm MG151/20 in the top turret it isn't even that badly gunned.

[Krusty]

I do agree with you that the Ju188 would be my choice, and with a 20mm MG151/20 in the top turret it isn't even that badly gunned.

Now... Was this turret of limited rear angle use, or was it 360 all the way around to the front? If so that would make a very powerful defensive tool. The MG151/20 is no slouch. Not to mention there was a 13mm right behind and below it. You'd have 2 guns hitting rear targets.

I don't think the 388 really counts. More of a "didn't really make it in time" bomber, and with a limited payload. It was fast, but very few were made.

Originally the first pre-production versions were 388Ls, with about 35 being made (some converted from Ju188S models). These carried no bombs, only cameras and aux fuel tanks.

The 388J never had any leave the production lines before the end of hostilities. This night fighter variant would not have had the tail guns, but it would have had a large ventral gunpod with 2x20mm and 2x30mm guns. Again, none made it.

The 388K bomber version had 10 pre-production test models and prototypes made, but before the war ended only 5 Ju388K-1s rolled off the production lines. Chances of them actually making it to front line units and seeing combat are slim to none.


IMO that plane doesn't work for AH. Ju-188 does a far better job.

[Debrody]

Im pretty sure the 188s top gunner could turn around in 360 degrees horizontally, but couldnt shoot "down" so the belly of the plane was still pretty much unprotected.
Both the 111, the 177 and the 188 would fill huge gaps in the planeset, maybe the 111 the biggest. But it would be very rare becouse it was slow, couldnt carry big bombload and had weak defensive guns with limited angles.