Augh, this is driving me nuts. Somewhere I have seen a print of a PB4Y Privateer slugging it out with a Mavisair to air. I have also seen a picture taken from another PB4Y of a Emily or Mavis on fire and about to crash into theocean. I do remember where I saw that one. It is in one of my Air Combat Photography series books...that I can'tfind! AUGH! P.S. Thank God for file backups...burned a disk full back in Feb! (Image removed from quote.)