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Offline Debrody

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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 12:10:01 PM »
Sorry Shemp, eve tho i would LOVE to fly a sea 109, i give it a -1.
The Graf Zeppelin was almost completed in '41 then they took a break in the construction. When they could finally complete it, it could leave the harbour couse of the red navy. It was captured and sunk by the russians.
The 109T was an emil modifyed for carryer operations (they thought the G.Z. will be operational in '41, and modifyed the current 109). I dont have much info about it, but it seen combat.
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 12:25:24 PM »
The 109T was most similar to a 109E-7 in actual performance. The only real difference would be the longer wingtips. This would make it roll worse and be more susceptible to G-forces ripping wings off (example: Ta152 in-game), but it would have a better turn radius (maybe) and better lift at higher alts (maybe).

Overall a non-entity for the Luftwaffe's planeset. We would be much better off with an E-7 or an E-7Z or an E-7N.


Just.... not on a cv.
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 02:11:37 PM »
However, if I recall correctly, the 109-T scored the 1st B-17 kill of the war.
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 06:13:34 AM »
Quote from: Krusty on April 19, 2011, 12:25:24 PM
The 109T was most similar to a 109E-7 in actual performance. The only real difference would be the longer wingtips. This would make it roll worse and be more susceptible to G-forces ripping wings off (example: Ta152 in-game), but it would have a better turn radius (maybe) and better lift at higher alts (maybe).

Overall a non-entity for the Luftwaffe's planeset. We would be much better off with an E-7 or an E-7Z or an E-7N.


Just.... not on a cv.
How could anything roll worse than a 109E? It so , it wouldnt roll at all!  Why is the 109E such a god-awful roller anyway?  Anybody know?    :headscratch:
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 07:24:27 AM »
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2011, 11:09:16 AM »
In the AvA we do sometimes run "what if?" scenarios. For the past week, it was what if Germany had finished and deployed a carrier.

We have to fudge such a set up and we don't have tailhooks.

As for the wish, I'm neutral.
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2011, 11:26:13 AM »
Quote from: curry1 on April 18, 2011, 08:39:17 PM
Hes saying the 109's flip and stall quirks.  I don't think there is much substance to that either but more so than a spit perhaps.

He is?   :confused:

Quote from: STEELE on April 18, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
<snip>(except the seafire has almost none of its bad flip over & spin stall quirks modeled),<snip>
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2011, 01:15:45 PM »
Germans Had no carriers.They had plans to build a Zepplin Aircraft carrier but that got toasted! :D
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2011, 02:03:31 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on April 18, 2011, 11:36:33 PM
I meant taking a cargo ship and converting it into an aircraft carrier. You would have to remove all the cargo and build a flight deck on it.
Unfortunately I could not find a good picture.

Ah ha.

You're slightly confused.

The Cassiblanca class CVE built on converted Liberty Ship hulls. They were also known as Kaiser Carriers for their builder, Kaiser Steel of Vancouver, Washington.



Kaiser = U.S. Ship building company. Kaiser ≠ Emperor of Germany.

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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2011, 05:48:48 PM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on April 20, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Ah ha.

You're slightly confused.

The Cassiblanca class CVE built on converted Liberty Ship hulls. They were also known as Kaiser Carriers for their builder, Kaiser Steel of Vancouver, Washington.

(Image removed from quote.)

Kaiser = U.S. Ship building company. Kaiser ≠ Emperor of Germany.

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I don't think that I'm confusing it with the Kaiser class, because this is the first time I hear of that class of ships.

There is a high possibility that I'm just wrong  :(   (perhaps my source was incorrect)
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2011, 06:10:57 PM »
Quote from: 1Nicolas on April 20, 2011, 01:15:45 PM
Germans Had no carriers.They had plans to build a Zepplin Aircraft carrier but that got toasted! :D
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2011, 08:47:58 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on April 20, 2011, 06:10:57 PM
You have a place in my hearth.

You gonna cook him in your fireplace and eat him?

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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 10:09:34 AM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on April 20, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
You gonna cook him in your fireplace and eat him?

ack-ack

Roasted rabbit...



Not too bad. There's worse things you could eat.
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2011, 01:53:13 PM »
Quote from: Shifty on April 22, 2011, 10:09:34 AM
Roasted rabbit...

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Not too bad. There's worse things you could eat.


Wha??? Pictures of dead bunnies? :furious :furious :furious  :D
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Re: 109 on CV's
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2011, 05:24:39 PM »
That rabbits not pining for the fjords, or dead!!! It's resting.
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