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Offline fwav8or

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Bomber Charts
« on: April 16, 2011, 10:20:01 AM »
Hello all,
So I was reading the level bombing tutorial from the training area and in it, it said there was a "chart showing how much time and distance it takes the various bombers to get to altitude" and to "see below" for this chart.  However, unless I am missing something, I could not find the chart.  Does anyone have a link to this chart?  I have found several other charts, but none that show how much time and distance it would take to get to altitude, which I think would be pretty handy for a noob such as myself.  :salute

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 11:35:52 AM »
That's wierd I was going to ask the same question. I believe the chart also shows the amount of fuel required.

Fellow noob here btw, if we see each other online maybe we can go on a few bomber sorties together  :salute

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 11:38:38 AM »
i have no idea of the exact time, but it takes 27895140e527 years for a lanc to get to 28k. and a b-17 is decent (i think i did it in about 15 minutes once) bombers i.e b-29, b-24 (i would think about the same as the b-17) G4M1, etc.

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 11:44:23 AM »
i have no idea of the exact time, but it takes 27895140e527 years for a lanc to get to 28k. and a b-17 is decent (i think i did it in about 15 minutes once) bombers i.e b-29, b-24 (i would think about the same as the b-17) G4M1, etc.

The B-17, B-29, and G4M have drastically different climb rates.
The B-24 and B-17 both have a slight (but noticeable) difference as well.
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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 11:49:40 AM »
The B-17, B-29, and G4M have drastically different climb rates.
The B-24 and B-17 both have a slight (but noticeable) difference as well.

i know they do, i was trying to say that the B-17 and B-24 had about the same climb/burn rate as each other.

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 12:14:41 PM »
Will post some numbers later today.
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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 12:17:53 PM »
i know they do, i was trying to say that the B-17 and B-24 had about the same climb/burn rate as each other.

Ah, there was no clarification in the post. It was hard to tell what you were getting at.

Will post some numbers later today.

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 01:13:40 PM »
That's wierd I was going to ask the same question. I believe the chart also shows the amount of fuel required.

Fellow noob here btw, if we see each other online maybe we can go on a few bomber sorties together  :salute

Hi Donpost, I'll look you up next time I am on.

Will post some numbers later today.

Captain Lusche,
Thanks!  I would greatly appreciate it!   :aok

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 03:50:16 PM »
Let me first state I know which document you are looking for, but I do not have it myself.

But not too long ago I started to do some climb tests with bombers. Unfortunately, due to lack of time it's not finished yet, but there is already a lot of data.
I had recorded time to climb from sea level to 5k-30K for the various  AH level bombers in different configurations (ordnance/fuel). What I didn't note were the horizontal distances covered, but with a little experience that's easy to guesstimate from the time spent. All times are rounded to the closest full minute, fuel endurance is given for sea level only (can improve significantly depending on altitude). Fuel Burn is 2.0

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And here you can download the raw data in PDF format: http://www.mediafire.com/?dj2bcwppj4f7apd


If someone has too much time at his hands and wants to test a configuration not covered yet, I would ask you to send me the results, so I can add them to the chart. Maybe later this year I have the time to finish my AH bomber handbook (of which this time to climb would be only a small part)


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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 03:58:48 PM »
Thanks!  :salute

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 07:10:08 PM »
do your r x t = d stuff it's fun.  you can find your tas and rate of climb.  the rest is elementary.

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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 11:57:45 PM »
Bah.  Take all the stats and through them out the window!   ;)

I have a spread sheet that shows bomb load outs, ranges, best alts for speed, defensive armaments, and some other stuff.  Not time to alt stuff, who needs that???   ;)

PM me your email and when i get my PC back I will send you a copy of the spread sheet. 
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Re: Bomber Charts
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 08:24:25 PM »
Lusche,

do you have the indicated airspeed used in each climb configuration?

Hap, it doesn't work quite like that since as you climb higher your indicated airspeed stays the same but your true airspeed and ground speed change with altitude.

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