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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 10:02:22 AM »
Chevy or Dodge don’t have the racing history of Ford.   NASCAR withstanding.   

don't try to convince chevy guys of that........ :noid
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2011, 10:03:58 AM »
don't try to convince chevy guys of that........ :noid

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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2011, 11:36:25 AM »
Fix
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2011, 11:39:19 AM »
Fix
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Repair
Daliy

we ain't talking about pintos here son..... :devil :bolt:
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2011, 12:26:46 PM »
Chevy or Dodge don’t have the racing history of Ford.   NASCAR withstanding.   
NHRA.....MOPAR
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »
If you want to get technical......ford won 9 times and chevrolet won 15 trans-am championships and 1966 had the under 2 liter alfa winning overall championship over the ford over 2 liter cars.

Small slice of porsche world class racing history.

14....Makes and Team World Championship (1964, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1994)
8......Long Distance World Championship
3......IMSA Supercar-Series (1991, 1992, 1993)
22.....Daytona 24 Hours (1968, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1995, 2003, 2009, 2010)
15.....IMSA Supercar-Race (USA)
16.....24 Hours of Le Mans (1970, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998)
18.....12 Hours of Sebring (1960, 1968, 1971, 1973, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 2008)
11.....Targa Florio (1956, 1959, 1960, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973)
4.......Rallye Monte Carlo (1968, 1969, 1970, 1978)
2.......Paris-Dakar Rally (1984, 1986)

Below is a porsche that logged over 70,000 race miles, two championships and first overall win of sebring 12 hours by a GTO class car.

I worked on it in the late 80s and was at junkyard next to daytona and could hear that porsches were racing when my phone rang with a question on the bodywork on this car.

I told them I would answer those questions in person within the hour if they got me admission.

Amazing event.



And here's the 944gtr that replaced it at rennsport II.



I like fords and still work on them.

I'll be doubling my "boost by gear" sensor system to include "nitrous by gear" this afternoon for this car below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMuPknhk67I

Here's how it ran with a blown head gasket and someone running too much boost in all the gears.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk9vMQRIp1E




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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2011, 12:53:17 PM »
nitrous, whilst i don't discount what it can do......it is for sissies that can't build power.

 that being said, i had a "off the shelf" 150hp setup i was gonna put on my gt back in the 90's. was gonna take the cheap way out to get her into the low 11's......but i just couldn't make myself put that crap on a car with my name on it.

 superchargers, turbochargers, fine.;.....nitrous.......thank you no.

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i don't mean anything personal by the above.....it is simply my opinion.
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2011, 01:03:21 PM »
NHRA.....MOPAR
much as i hate to say it...almost as short lived as the mopar domination of nascar...the hemi was mopar's "ace in the hole".



nitrous, whilst i don't discount what it can do......it is for sissies that can't build power.
gotta agree cap...
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2011, 01:09:43 PM »
much as i hate to say it...almost as short lived as the mopar domination of nascar...the hemi was mopar's "ace in the hole".

 the thing with mopars in drag racing.....watch them. even in the regular guy classes. they make massive top end power. you may hammer them out of the hole, but they'll come past ya like a freight train on greased rails up top.
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2011, 01:18:22 PM »
We haven't yet used the nitrous in a race but the 600 shot is on the car in case we need it to break 280mph......maybe higher.

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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 01:18:58 PM »
Gotta admit though, in that link I posted with the 68' vs the Bike, that was a pretty darn nice holeshot. Thing stuck to the road and flew as soon as he gave it some power  :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4izK-sjS4&feature=related
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 01:20:39 PM »
We haven't yet used the nitrous in a race but the 600 shot is on the car in case we need it to break 280mph......maybe higher.

if it's not being used, then it is extra weight, serving no other purpose than to slow you down.
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 01:29:45 PM »
if it's not being used, then it is extra weight, serving no other purpose than to slow you down.


It might not be needed but, after bottle removal, the nitrous setup only weighs 5 pounds.

If we were really worried about weight, we would have removed the A/C, interior, and entertainment sytems.

This car, after all, is a daily driver that also happens to go over 250mph.

Earlier in the thread, you mentioned ford and it's Trans-Am series wins but forgot that ford won it 9 times and chevrolet won it 15 times.

And of the 9 times, a under 2 liter alfa took the overall championship giving ford the over 2 liter championship so it's really 8 times ford won the Trans-Am championship to chevy's 15.
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2011, 01:57:12 PM »
You mentioned ford and it's Trans-Am series wins but forgot that ford won it 9 times and chevrolet won it 15 times.

i didn't forget anything.

 each time ford wanted it back, they took it. and btw......lincoln/mercury=ford.

13 championships through the years. even the crappy 70's and 80's

and i think it was 16 for chevy.

what i'd really like to see ford do now, is to take a stang to the nurburg ring........see how it does there. or did they do that, and i missed it?
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Re: i shouldn't do this
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2011, 01:59:10 PM »

It might not be needed but, after bottle removal, the nitrous setup only weighs 5 pounds.

If we were really worried about weight, we would have removed the A/C, interior, and entertainment sytems.

This car, after all, is a daily driver that also happens to go over 250mph.

Earlier in the thread, you mentioned ford and it's Trans-Am series wins but forgot that ford won it 9 times and chevrolet won it 15 times.

And of the 9 times, a under 2 liter alfa took the overall championship giving ford the over 2 liter championship so it's really 8 times ford won the Trans-Am championship to chevy's 15.

so what did you give up to go 250? after all, by your reasoning, that mustang in the other thread had to give up somethign to run 9's....so by that reasoning, a 250mph car has to give up some manners too.  :devil
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