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Offline colmbo

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Re: Logbook
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2011, 11:12:22 AM »
You have to agree that that one signature could not have caused anything really bad, in the wost case scenario he would have just called his instructor and he would have came and signed it. There is no way I'm going to believe that that one thing could have ended this career.

What I was trying to point out is that the paperwork is very important.  I've been ramped once, the inspector had an issue with warbird pilots/operators.  It was obvious when she made contact that she had an agenda....luckily I tend to do things by the rules so it worked out ok but she is one of those bad inspectors that gopher mentioned.    Was a crappy ending to a really fun day of flying.

In this case the CFI may have gotten talked to but I think Tupac would have been okay.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 12:13:33 PM »
Re-reading my post, I understand I didn't clarify which endorsement I was missing. I was cleared for a 90 day solo endorsement on12-17-10, which expired March 17th. On the 17th of march, my instructor signed and dated my student pilot certificate, and started to do my logbook but apparently got sidetracked. I had a 90 day endorsement partially filled out in my logbook from 3-17 to 6-10, he got all the way to the part where me limited my crosswind component.

Thinking back, it was the last day I saw him. Myself, Tom and Tim (My instructors) had a meeting. I think it was just a simple mix-up. He thought he had given me an endorsement and left.

Golfer, I wasn't referring to you when I said punk kid treatment, I was talking about the examiner. I respect you very much and wouldn't be derogatory in that manner.

edit: I dont know why he signed my student pilots license 3 times, I thought you only signed it once?
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Re: Logbook
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2011, 12:26:42 PM »
This should help in the future so you don't get them confused.


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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2011, 12:28:56 PM »
This should help in the future so you don't get them confused.

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Re: Logbook
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2011, 09:36:23 PM »
What I was trying to point out is that the paperwork is very important.  I've been ramped once, the inspector had an issue with warbird pilots/operators.  It was obvious when she made contact that she had an agenda....luckily I tend to do things by the rules so it worked out ok but she is one of those bad inspectors that gopher mentioned.    Was a crappy ending to a really fun day of flying.

In this case the CFI may have gotten talked to but I think Tupac would have been okay.

Ah I see what your saying. I just though you were referring specifically to Tupac's case in the previous post.
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Re: Logbook
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2011, 10:14:02 PM »
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Not really.   Golfer knows his watermelon and you did blow things out of proportion a bit.   Re-read his posts again after a good night's sleep and a clear mind.   
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2011, 10:20:41 PM »
Not really.   Golfer knows his watermelon and you did blow things out of proportion a bit.   Re-read his posts again after a good night's sleep and a clear mind.   

I know he does. I did overreact, but it was a big deal to me at the time.
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 12:38:16 AM »
I know he does. I did overreact, but it was a big deal to me at the time.

Eh...was going to be dropping skydivers at an airshow and was at the pilot brief a couple days before the show.  FAA folks were present, filled out the form showing my currency, BFR, etc. A couple of days after the show (I did two drops each day over 2 days) while at work I was looking through the logbook again and noticed that the date I had used for the BFR was the CFIs expiration date, not the date of the BFR...I was way overdue!!!  Took leave from work, went to the FBO and drug a CFI to the airplane and got the BFR done.  That airshow was one of the first Bob Hoover flew after getting his medical back.
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Re: Logbook
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 12:46:47 AM »
I had one cheeseball guy come out one morning when we were getting ready to leave Podunk Municipal for Civilization Regional.  He was a goofy dude who looked every inch a fed with the cheesy tie, short sleeve shirt, lanyard with more badges than I have bands on my waterfowl calls, chart case and oddly fitting slacks.  Turns out he kept his airplane at the airport (whew! This means he actually flys) and seemed to just want an excuse to talk to someone about airplanes.  Apart from being a little socially awkward he was good people and an airplane geek with a genuine love for flying.  Our passengers had called asking about an earlier departure time so we were pressed to get ready so we couldn't chat but it was one of the times I wish we could've.  We traded information, he logged us as a ramp inspection to justify his work existence and we went on our merry way.

My heart skipped a beat one early winter morning at LaGuardia while working for an airline.  One leg in from an outstation and one leg back to base made up my last day of a 4 day and I was looking to a couple days off before I went back down to Brazil later in the week.  I went down to the ramp from the jetway to do a post flight when I saw a maintenance van pull up to the airplane as I was starting my walkaround.  There were no writeups on the airplane so I figured it was just a normal two-day check until a couple suits hopped out along with one of the mechanics.  I made my way around past the baggage loader to see what was up.  Turns out they were feds.  I presented my credentials for their records while I jotted theirs down when he looked up and said to me with a smirk "I know your name..."  (Insert heart beat skip here) I asked if I still had an opportunity to deny all charges, if the rumors of my death had been greatly exaggerated or if I was just the last one to hear about it.  He didn't reply right away as I waited with a raised brow letting me wonder for a couple seconds. Turns out he said he processes some portion of the paperwork for the newly delivered airplanes for our airline (or others?) and had seen my name on the crew manifest for the last several.  What are the odds?  He asked how Brazil was, I invited him to come along next time to see for himself and we chatted a couple minutes before getting on to business.  They were there with the mechanic to inspect our cargo nets (something I as a pilot didn't care about) because apparently a few had been fraying some on previous inspections.  Good enough for me and no big deal so off we went.

None of my other ramp inspections had anything particularly noteworthy about them.  Other than seeing the airworthiness certificate and aircraft registrations (which expire now, so check yours especially if you're renting) and a copy of the MEL there isn't much else they've needed to look in the airplane for.  At my current position during our annual line checks it's a little more thorough but that's to be expected.  All in all it's no big deal and while there may well be a few old crusty love muffines out there by in large the folks who are ASIs are decent folks who aren't out to screw with you for sport.  It happens but it's nothing that can't be handled 99.999% of the time with having your ducks generally in a row and being professional.