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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2011, 07:26:53 PM »
I agree with the Axis iron. But, how about the A-36 we don't have any divebombers that can strafe. Also, It is faster than most divebombers in the game.  :salute :airplane:

The P-38 can strafe, so can the P-47, the P-51B/D and a myriad of other fighter planes that performed better than the A-36 as a diver bomber that we already have in game.

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2011, 07:29:16 PM »
The P-38 can strafe, so can the P-47, the P-51B/D and a myriad of other fighter planes that performed better than the A-36 as a diver bomber that we already have in game.

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I said divebomber and that none of them have the guns to strafe in any way shape or form. Also, most divebombers are very slow.
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2011, 07:42:01 PM »

I said divebomber and that none of them have the guns to strafe in any way shape or form. Also, most divebombers are very slow.

P-38s were used as dive bombers, F4U Corsairs were used as dive bombers, P-47s, P-51s, etc.  And yes, they did have the guns to strafe as towards the end of the way the primary missions for planes like the P-38 and P-47 were strafing targets of opportunity.

In fact, the major reason why dive bombers became obsolete was due to the dual mission nature of the fighters being produced that performed in the dive bombing role just as good, if not better, then dedicated dive bombers.

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2011, 07:43:19 PM »
P-38s were used as dive bombers, F4U Corsairs were used as dive bombers, P-47s, P-51s, etc.  And yes, they did have the guns to strafe as towards the end of the way the primary missions for planes like the P-38 and P-47 were strafing targets of opportunity.

In fact, the major reason why dive bombers became obsolete was due to the dual mission nature of the fighters being produced that performed in the dive bombing role just as good, if not better, then dedicated dive bombers.

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Most didn't have divebrakes and if they pulled out a late they would hit serious compression.

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2011, 07:49:35 PM »
Most didn't have divebrakes and if they pulled out a late they would hit serious compression.

The Corsair had dive brakes, the P-38L (and late model P-38J) and P-47s had dive recovery flaps. 

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2011, 07:57:16 PM »
The Corsair had dive brakes, the P-38L (and late model P-38J) and P-47s had dive recovery flaps. 

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How about scenario play in the Desert Campaign? Also, wouldn't it sound nice to have something like a divebombing pony?

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2011, 08:05:05 PM »
How about scenario play in the Desert Campaign? Also, wouldn't it sound nice to have something like a divebombing pony?

Not really. If I want a dive-bombing pony, I'll just strap some 500 lbers on a D-pony and get the job done.

-1 for the A36. The plane doesn't really add anything to the game and we are in need of better scenario aircraft; planes like the He-111, Do-17 and 217, Mosquito Mk IV, Ki-43 Oscar, and a myriad of others.
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 08:07:27 PM »
Not really. If I want a dive-bombing pony, I'll just strap some 500 lbers on a D-pony and get the job done.

-1 for the A36. The plane doesn't really add anything to the game and we are in need of better scenario aircraft; planes like the He-111, Do-17 and 217, Mosquito Mk IV, Ki-43 Oscar, and a myriad of others.

The A-36 was a player in the North African Desert Campaign. And yes I agree with most of the planes you pointed out.

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2011, 09:32:55 PM »
This one with the big guns in the wings looks interesting.  :rock


What about that one. :headscratch:  :aok  :D  :bolt:

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2011, 09:39:22 PM »
Nah, if we need a Mustang with 4 cannons, we can always ask for the P51VLR(20mm)  :)
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2011, 09:56:30 PM »
I said divebomber and that none of them have the guns to strafe in any way shape or form. Also, most divebombers are very slow.
you really should bone up on some of this stuff before you make erroneous assertions...

p-47s in action...not only dog fighting but strafing ground targets
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75277905547951258#

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75277905547951258#docid=-6635752499311348219

p-51s..same thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjr8ZtEcrtE&feature=related

miscellaneous strafing runs...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT4P9Lbl0E0&feature=related

and they dropped bombs just like dive bombers...only faster
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2011, 09:57:03 PM »
Nah, if we need a Mustang with 4 cannons, we can always ask for the P51VLR(20mm)  :)

Those were replaced with the P-47VLR, although they only had 2 underwing 20mms, the range made the P-51VLR obsolete and the performance at 42K was better than even the Ta152.

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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2011, 10:35:20 PM »
Nah, if we need a Mustang with 4 cannons, we can always ask for the P51VLR(20mm)  :)
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2011, 10:46:43 PM »
I agree with the Axis iron. But, how about the A-36 we don't have any divebombers that can strafe. Also, It is faster than most divebombers in the game.  :salute :airplane:
On the point of axis iron how about the hs-129  :noid

back to the point, I wouldnt mind having this plane included.
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Re: A-36 Apache
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2011, 11:20:05 PM »
Hs129 would be nice.
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